That paragraph is one of the most phenomenal things I've ever read. If it's true then **** it, Jack Dempsey is the best.
JOE BENJAMIN was a pro lightweight who had 92 fights winning 46 and losing 21, he fought men like Richie Mitchell,,Johnny Dundee,and drew with Joe Rivers and beat Benny Valger. He was a regular sparring partner for Dempsey ,who used him for speed work.atsch Have you been thrown out of the Lounge?:-(
Joe Benjamin was a pro light weight who fought in good class, he and Dempsey were devoted to each other. You don't deign, [I think that's the word you were looking for,]to judge Dempsey? You just come on here and talk a complete load of **** about him .atsch Benjamin was Dempsey's chief second in the Firpo fight. This content is protected Dempsey with Benjamin and Dave Shade. If there is an imbecile involved here ,I think he might be you .
Hope you continue to hang about ecto, always enjoy your posts and always learn something, esp in regards to past Australian fighters. I'm sure if you look back on McVey's posts you'll see that he is also a quite knowledgeble and respectable poster, im sure he's taken your posts opposite to what was intended. Given some of the posters with an agenda recently, i feel he may have mistaken you for one. On the flip side... McVey take a look at the history of ecto's posts. Very knowledgable, insightfull and honest, there is no buttering up in his opinion, he talks facts.
Correct. Johnson lies so much its hard to take anything he says at face value. I will post his thoughts on Louis vs Conn later.
Seconded. I hope Ecto stays. McVey's just a bitter old man who has nothing better to do than lash out at out posters
This is how I see it. Johnson used the color line to avoid the top black talent more than any other heavyweight champion in history, then has the nerve to make up lies or half truths to belittle his processors.
none of the stories here say anything much to me about dempsey being any sort of particular nasty character. ok he lived in a brothel for a while and probably lived largely off his wife's "immoral earnings" for a while. its no secret that dempsey came from the desperately poor margins of society. so what ? as for bring "sadistic" in training camp, again, its hardly surprising. Dempsey had a cruel mean streak for sure, like most great fighters, and training camp was no place to repress that streak. These allegations concern him bullying grown men who happen to fancy themselves as boxers of some description. Spare me the violins and sobbing. none of this excludes the fact that he could be a "gentleman" in civilian life and in retirement.
All of our boxing heroes,such as Dempsey,Johnson,Ali,Frazier,Tyson et al,are human beings,like the rest of us. Not saints,and we should n't expect them to be.