Who Had a Better Resume, Hatton or Prince Naseem?

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  1. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agreed that 1 big win does not give him a pass over the likes of Naz.Hatton was a good fighter but I think sometimes his popularity because of his style and his huge fan base get confused with greatness.I remember a casual fan at work telling me how Hatton would"knock his head off easy"before the Pac fight.
     
  2. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    I disagree. Comparing fighters, ability etc is just merely opinion. The achievements I mentioned are irrefutable facts and impressive ones. The list could have gone on.

    I see your point about how Vasquez was stopped but I've come to over look the bad points more because I feel boxing fans just argue and pick holes in a guys career in an attempt to show they aren't super human and unstoppable. In boxing if a fighter isn't invincible then for some reason they aren't good and that seems to apply even when we discuss fighters like mayweather, leonard, marciano etc
     
  3. Flea Man

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    Of course, I'm not saying he's ****. But flopped by Hurtado and stopped by Phillips? Best wins Judah, Mitchell and an old Chavez?

    Most people seem to consider him one of the best ten stone fighters and one of the 'greats' from the last era. I strongly disagree with that, I of course concede he was top class, the best 140lber of the day and had a real solid blow behind his right hand.
     
  4. Flea Man

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    Better resume is not just names but the context of the win and manner of victory.

    This isn't picking holes, this is fact. When discussing 'who is greater' you have to pick apart both fighters to determine which had the stronger ledger.

    I didn't dispute Vasquez wasn't good. But multi-weight 'champ' isn also highly misleading. Also, I'm one of the last people who would discount someone after a loss. But having watched a fair bit of Vasquez Sr, I can confirm he wasn't all that. So I disagree that you should judge an opponent on face value.

    Oh, and Leonard wasn't undefeated either.
     
  5. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Hatton and "greatness" shouldn't (and doesn't) get confused very often.
     
  6. royalt0208

    royalt0208 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I would say Naz, would give my breakdown but would likely get ripped by Flea and he intimidates me :oops:
     
  7. Flea Man

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    Don't be stupid. I think Naz as well, for the record :good
     
  8. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not on here perhaps but prior to the Pac loss the feeling I got from casual fans was that the Mayweather fight was a slip up helped by the ref, and that Hatton was pretty much unstoppable.A good mate of mine was so stunned by the Pac defeat his reaction was total disbelief despite me telling him over and over in the build up how nasty a little ****er Manny is in the ring and how good he is.
     
  9. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Flea is right about the titles IMHO. In support of the other side of an argument a "multi weight world champ" can easily become a a fighter who "picked up the weaker WBO/IBF trinkets" and vice versa.

    You have to give a bit of context, the facts on their own are not usually enough to tell the whole tale and can sometimes be pretty misleading.
     
  10. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not suprised,they are rough as **** in thornhill.
     
  11. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Naseem's record is more consistent, Hatton beat the best opponent.
     
  12. Flea Man

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    Thornhill estate in Southampton mate, posh as **** ;-)
     
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    TFFP The Eskimo

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    At his best being the key here.
     
  14. p.Townend

    p.Townend Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Not the Thornhill round the corner from me then.Sorry mate thought you were a Dewsbury lad and was only joking anyway,some nice houses in thornhill dewsbury.
     
  15. Flea Man

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    :D No probs mucker :good