Marquez says he'll fight Pac in Texas or Bradley at 140 if he can't get Pac

Marquez has the tighter defense on the inside and has never tired over 12.

 

JMM should be so lucky if this were to happen

 

This is a great match up, just what JMM and Bradley need.

 

Welterweight is a whole different animal. Don't let the Pac fight fool you. Pac's a lightweight who doesn't even fight inside. As far as I'm concerned JMM is still unproven at WW....against fighters who would use that size advantage. With that said, JMM's best chance at welter is against Bradley as he's not that much bigger. But what Bradley has going for him is youth and energy. If that was enough for Juan Diaz and Katsidis to pull close fights with JMM then a much more talented Tim Bradley stands a good chance to decisively beat JMM.

 

Pacquiao is not a lightweight. I doubt he would be the same fighter if he cut the weight and adjusted his training regimen to make 135 lbs.

Diaz had much more volume than anything Bradley has ever thrown, and Katsidis was more of a traditional swarmer with big power; despite his also very large volume and use of his size advantage to press Marquez, Marquez barely got hit past the 3rd round. Neither of those styles really correlate's with Bradley's anyway. Marquez has the tighter punches and the better defense on the inside, where Bradley rushes in wildly with often looping punches that spell success for an elite counter-puncher like Marquez. If Bradley is going to win, he'll have to use his speed and try to outbox Marquez, which is a supreme challenge in itself considering Marquez's Ring IQ.

 

At welter, it's not so much the styles that's going to be a challenge for JMM, it's moreso the size difference. A marginally talented guy like Rios could conceivably knock JMM out just by straightup leaning/bullrushing and forcing it inside. Or someone like Khan could pick JMM from distance on jabs alone. Margo, Clottey? Forget about it. All the counterpunching acumen in the world don't mean **** if you can't dictate the action. At welter JMM's gonna encounter guys who will own a decisive strength advantage, height and reach advantage, or a combination of all these factors. At this weight, JMM's gonna have to bring something to the table a little different than waiting on someone to come to him....because most of these bigger guys WILL come to him and be right on his chest. If not they'll box from distance and force JMM to come to them, i.e Floyd.

...but again, I do believe JMM' best chance at welter is against Bradley. They have similar dimensions, and JMM can still utilize his counterpunching acumen on Tim who I agree does come in unpolished. But Bradley is the stronger and far fresher guy, and if it turns out to be a physical attrtition-type affair, I like the younger guy's chances of just outworking and outhustling JMM over 12.

 

Why argue over semantics? What if I told you he's the same size as JMM? You get the point...

 

Well I'm not sure why we're talking welter when I'd assume they'd be fighting at 140 or at the very least at a catch-weight of 144 or around that again. Even then, I believe he has the skill differential to handle a bigger man on the inside over 12.

When Bradley shows the volume of a Katsidis or a Diaz, then I'll start worrying about his youth overcoming Marquez's own offense. Until then, I think as you say, the similar dimensions favor Marquez too evenly for his own great attributes to fail him in this match-up.

 

:good...I agree. At this point in his career he has NOTHING to prove. And beside here in the ESB General Forum (HATER-VILLE) Everyone would just Hate on Bradley for beating an older fighter (assuming he would win, of course).

 

after pacquiao marquez 3.

 

i always wanted marquez to fight khan when it was offered to him before. now i want to see marquez-bradley if he can't get the pac fight.

 

Good call on texas, its a more realistic scenario and it would be the Cowboy's Stadium in DAL Texas. But he should also look for other opponents, Peterson would be a good option, I have no problem though if he fights morales despite how easy on hindsight it would be. I feel they really do need to fight to determine who really is better of the two in resume terms(in my book).

If Pac-may/marquez doesn't happen then it would be none other than pac-bradley so marquez needs another option.

 

Again, semantics. 140-147 is welter. And you seem to take a lotta stock on JMM's skill differential. Well there is this thing called law of diminishing returns. JMM doesn't have the particular skillset to overcome size the way Pac would. I mean I would pick a guy with a 72 inch reach over JMM's "skill" in a welterweight fight any day. Can you picture that hypothetical? It wouldn't matter how skilled JMM is, he more than likely loses the battle of space and distance everytime his opponent throws a jab. What happens when your opponent can hit you and you can't hit back?.....Yes, you have to fight forward, not exactly what JMM is known for.

 

he is the embodiment of :bbb

 

bradley will fight pac next. fo sho