JMM is clearly on steroids...

Marquez just evened the playing field. It was all over the news that he hired a cheat for a conditioning coach and pacquiao COULD NOT DO A THING because he has been doing the exact same thing all this time. This sport is becoming a joke just like the WWE because of things like these. I don't support Marquez doing it, but at the same time I don't blame him for doing it against the li'l ****!!! It's obvious he did it and pac and his fans had to deal with it. FACT!!!

 

best post by far :thumbsup

 

*******s sound like aztecas!!!!!_!!

 

I wonder what these PEDs are that make Pac and JMM into supermen?:think

 

Even posters juice. When I was at my peak zipping around threads I put on 2lbs of hand muscles from Angels concoctions.

 

Innocent untill proven guilty...except on ESB...

Seems that hiring a coach with a dubious past or refusing a non-official bloodtest forced upon you by another fighter with a bit of megalomania, is proof enough to push your career into the "He's a known cheater" status for the rest of your life.

I wonder how many posters here who are in their thirties have trouble putting on weight? I know people will point out that it's easy to do that when it's pure fat, but my experience tells me that putting on muscle mass isn't all that hard when your metabolism slows down with age. How many boxers go up in weight classes with age? Are they all using?

Next comeback will be "Yeah, but he retains so much of his KO power and speed and that's impossible without steroids!"... Is it? Is the average poster here an expert on such matters? The fact that one joins a boxing forum is an indication that one is an experienced athlete or trainer with years of experience? Or is it just that you've watched a couple of hundred fights over the years and feel that that gives you the status of "expert" on anything sports and physical related?

What happened to discussing a boxer's jab or hook or apparent lack of technique or headmovement and what not? Stuff the average joe CAN comment on, because it's plain to see! But no, half the threads on this forum are polluted by accusations of steroid use and almost without exception result in people flinging the most inventive insults at eachother... No doubt this will happen to me aswell, but to me a fighter is not a cheat untill he's proven to be a cheat by the right instances...and no amount of calling someone a roiduser on ESB will change that. I love the sport too much to let it be degraded to that!

 

Thats what happens when you are in an even level field Marquez said if hes on it them im def. going to even things up

 

I'd be willing to bet quite a bit of money that he was. Dude got jacked in no time, didn't lose a step. No doubt top athletes have access to PEDs two steps ahead of testing.

 

They both had their moments in all 3 fights. Not a schooling by any means for either guy. People who think the fights were not close are upset cheerleaders who want to change the perceptions of their trilogy..... It's been a great war but Pac has the edge if only slightly.

 

I am not too big on JMM as a great fighter, but to say he is on steroids? No. He works out and gets big. Hard work pays off.

 

Pac won the fight by MD. And Marquez has always been naturally bigger than Pac, who isn't at all a real WW.