On the drive home from work, I am treated to a really good sports talk channel, and a show hosted by Mike Gastineau, who is apparently sort of familiar with none other than Jim Lampley. They had Lampley on the show via phone the other week, and "Gas" is a big boxing fan. They started talking about his work wth HBO, and Lampley naturally started talking about his time broadcasting Tyson fights for the network. Lampley said something interesting.........he talked at some length about his time broadcasting with Tyson, and his private conversations with the ex-champ. He said, upon questioning, that he shared Tyson's own view of himself, that he was the most overrated heavyweight champion of all time. He rated Tyson outiside the top ten somewhere, which I thought unusually harsh and inaccurate. My own take on it was that Tyson was being modest, and deferring to the older greats out of a sense of generosity for the sake of being generous. Who knows though.........how would you gauge these comments, and do you agree with Lampley, if only to a small extent? For what it's worth, I like Lampley a lot; he adds a lot of flavor to the broadcasts, and shows some emotion and involvement in what he does to draw one in.......he is very, very good at what he does.
I'd agree with the bold, is he the scoring guy on HBO? If so he can't score a fight to save his life Sky TV UK were interviewing Tyson they were asking 'who do you consider the best heavyweight' to paraphrase he said 'there's plenty of great heavyweights, it depends who you're favourite is' Tyson himself seems quite modest but not only that but lacking pride in what he achieved he doesn't seem to value it that much. Not only that he dislikes the person he was when he was champion. He talks about how Cos taught him to consider all other fighters lesser than himself and he seems to distance himself from that character now
Tyson is a manic depressive, of course his estimation of himself is low. The record speaks for itself. No one had a more dominant stay in the HW division against better, modern sized heavies than Tyson had from 85 thru 89, not Dempsey, Louis, Liston or Ali. He didn't just collect pelts; he beat top rated opponents emphatically.
i dont think putting tyson outside the top 10 heavyweights of all time is necessarily under-rating him. in other words i dont think he is a lock for a place in the top 5. he was very good but he really didnt reign for long as champion.
interesting take. wladimir klitschko has also been doing the same kind of thing ie.beating top rated opponents easily, for about 5 years now
Indeed, Tyson's star shone short but extremely bright and as he took on and mostly thrashed almost everyone that was anyone. It was great to see the division cleaned out after all the multi belt holders. His run from 1986 to 1989 was brilliantly emphatic. This period alone gets him in the top 10.
Dempsey gets more credit for a shorter reign of terror over a bunch of blacksmith, longshoremen, farm hands and miners.
Agreed. Tyson had much respect and knowledge of past greats, and studied hours of film. There was a part in the movie where Mike says something like "On the way to the ring Im nervous ;is the other guy stronger,s he faster did I train enough? When I enter the ring Im a God" that stuck with me.It is that fierce sense of confidence that defined his peak form.Mike is absolutely top ten I agree with others that he cemented his legacy before prison.
She is ok as a judge. Harold himself used to be a judge aswell. He is the king of scoring infavor of ineffective aggression.