Ismayl Sillakh: “I think if Ward fights Lucian Bute he will beat him easy!"

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  1. sthomas

    sthomas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bute beat the non-count. He was up @ 8 seconds. Time had already expired, once Bute's gloves cleared the matt, the fight was over and went to the cards.
     
  2. laffie

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    Fail. Bute was not in it even if he was number 2 when it started. Ward is the number one but still can't proclaim to be the best. He has to fight Bute.

    It's like making a tournament at HW without the K brothers and try to say the winner is the best HW. It would be ridiculous, of course.
     
  3. Boxing Girl

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    Allen Green was rated the number 7 super middleweight in the world by RING when he got the call to the super 6 :lol: He also was #3 in WBO.....you Bute nut huggers are sad :rofl
     
  4. MichiganWarrior

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    The fight should have been stopped when Bute was against the ropes with his hands down and Andrade was able to smash him in the face unprotected. He could of died. And although he was up around 8, the ref stalled for time so the time would run out, because if he had done his job, Andrade would have had about 3 secounds to smash Bute to the ground again.
     
  5. MichiganWarrior

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    Ward is considered the best by everyone outside of Canada. Petition the UN if you feel grieved.
     
  6. pasky2000

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    That's wrong because Bute went down with 4 seconds left on the time clock. Since there is always at least a mandatory 8 count, you can easily see that the fight was over once he cleared the floor. the ref could have passed out once Bute hit the mat, and the call would have been the same...

    That's what most argue considering the knockdown. Andrade had no time left, no matter what happened with the ref.
     
  7. sthomas

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    Wrong. Time had run out well before Bute beat the count, so once Bute was up @ 8 the fight was over. There is really only one way to resolve the issue of such a controversial fight once all the protests are exausted and that's to have a rematch, and we all know how that went
     
  8. laffie

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    The more you write, the more it is obvious you know nothing about the division.

    Since you refer the Ring's ratings, let me remember you they Bute number 2.

    Green is not a top win. Boxrec won't be enough to make such a gigantic spin.
     
  9. Steenalized

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    Green was a legit replacement. Clearly they weren't going to get Bute. Too much money, too big of a threat to shake up the tournament. But, especially at the time, Green looked like a legit replacement. Borderline top 10 SMW, had the right promoter and nationality. He got exposed by Ward (but who didn't, other than Kessler I guess).
     
  10. laffie

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    Just make a poll asking if Ward has to face Bute to be undisputed. We'll see what the others think. Don't assume everybody thinks like you.
     
  11. MichiganWarrior

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    You are right. However the point still stands, if the ref wasnt in Bute's back pocket the fight would have been stopped when Bute went to the ropes with his hands down defenseless. Bute could have been killed.

    And there is no pride in needing 2 fights to beat a limited fighter like Andrade. A guy even Kessler was able to school no problem.
     
  12. MichiganWarrior

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    Difference between being undisputed and being considered the best. Start a poll asking who is the best super middleweight in the world. Ward or Bute. Start a poll asking who has faced the better competition. Start a poll asking who is the more skilled versatile fighter.

    Who do you think wins?
     
  13. MichiganWarrior

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    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8N4-xN5468&feature=related[/ame]

    If you start the count from when Bute's butt hits the canvas. The YT clock says 2:58. Bute gets up at around 3:08. So did he make the 10 count? It was close. If the fight is anywhere but Canada, its probably waved off atleast 3 times in the last 20 seconds.
     
  14. MichiganWarrior

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    Ward beat Kessler and Froch. Who are far and away better then anyone Bute has fought. You can argue that Abraham alone is better and more accomplished then anyone Bute has beaten.


    Ward is almost universally considered the best Super Middleweight in the World. He holds the Ring belt which signifies the best Super Middleweight in the division.


    Tell that Andrade KO victim Bute to fight Kessler and Froch like Ward did, and maybe then he gets a shot at the king. :yep
     
  15. Boxing Girl

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    So are you admitting that Bute should not be ranked #2 by ring? :lol: Might be better then admitting that Green was in fact ranked #7 by them as he entered the tournament, which would maKe all points Bute nutlovers have null and void :rofl:rofl:rofl
     
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