Alistair Overeem vs. Junior Dos Santos

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  1. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    None of them would be able to compete successful in pro boxing. Their 'technique ' is good enough for MMA but its WOEFULLY poor for pro boxing.
    Ironically BJ Penn would have made a good journeyman. Good hands and a great chin. He wouldn't have gone far but he would have been durable and competitive to a point.
     
  2. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Just call him a striker. Simple. He certainly is not a boxer.
     
  3. Matty lll

    Matty lll Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah thats what I mean though. Good boxing for MMA, so it's still fair to call them boxers when you are talking about MMA :good
     
  4. cross_trainer

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    :think

    Well, he's heavy-handed and relies on throwing hands (as opposed to well-rounded strikers like Overeem)...Perhaps "puncher" would work?
     
  5. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    I don't think so. :nono
    MMA can't be considered the pinnacle of combat sports when it's 'boxing' is infinitely inferior to Pro Boxing.
     
  6. scurlaruntings

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    Call him what you like :yep Just not a boxer because he simply isn't one. :tong
     
  7. Matty lll

    Matty lll Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Look at this shite that was just posted on Sherdog. Might be the worst post I've ever read in my life, on any forum.

    Originally Posted by superfoot4eva
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    If true, then boxing isn't all that great.

    At this point, it's boxing, not MMA that has something to prove. High level wrestlers, kickboxers, and BJJ guys have all found alot of success in MMA, but we're still waiting for a good boxer to show he can be champ. The UFC HW champ reliably makes 7 figures per fight: better than all but maybe the top 5 HWs. If boxers are such awesome strikers then there should be a bunch of dudes who are just a couple years of training TDD away from UFC gold and the millions that come with it. David Haye ought to be able to do it in his sleep.

    Until that happens, if MMA guys are doing something differently from boxers, then I'm just going to assume that the way boxers do it just doesn't work in a real fight.


    :-(
     
  8. Matty lll

    Matty lll Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is it considered the pinnacle of combat sports? Its not by me anyway.
     
  9. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Oft repeated phrase by MANY MMA fans. Either way in terms of a sport that employs many aspects from martial arts logically it has to be.
     
  10. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Does Kharitonov count as a boxer? :hey
     
  11. mckay_89

    mckay_89 Haw you! Full Member

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    Sherdog is a horrible place at times.
     
  12. One Punch KO

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    :good
     
  13. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Whilst Kharitonov's boxing is weak -by pro boxing standards- he has participated in the K-1 and has also represented his country and Tajikistan in the amateurs. So yes if he was called a 'boxer' id have to agree.
     
  14. scurlaruntings

    scurlaruntings ESB 2002 Club Full Member

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    Horrible? It's ****ing horrendous. It's truly a dreadful forum.
     
  15. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Yeah, that's my take as well.