the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Kalule-HoJoo?

And would Kalule be a counter puncher or a pure boxer? Or would you agree that the lines blue there sufficiently enough that is doesn't matter what I pick?

Good thread that, dunno how it passed me by.

 

Aye I have it.

Dont know, I aint seen much of Kalule to comment but from what I have seen hes a counter puncher

 

I'm more about the classification. What entails a pure boxer? Simply hit and not be hit? That could evoke quite a few names. I guess Calderon would be, but Kalule is fare more impressive an operator than that punk.

I'ma go with counter puncher. It's his footwork that makes it all happen, should be fun.

 

I really like this fight, and I like Jones, think hes a quality veteran.

 

:rofl

 

Keeping things in broad categories, i'd just call him a textbook boxer-puncher(not actually being able to punch would be a fundamental weakness but not something reflected in the choice of style here).Geting more specific you would have to mention being slanted heavily towards methodical, patient yet quite aggressive counterpunching ie Marquez, Sal Sanchez or to a slightly lesser extent Jofre(he did wing punches and punch more aggressively, but that was because he could afford to being a great puncher with a tough beard).Strengths and weaknesses are different but the intent and textbook skills being used are the same.

 

lora you are right there, he boxes like he can punch and he is strong enough to get away with it IMO, aswell as sharp and skilled enough, just dosent have power.

 

Textbook boxer? Good shout I guess, his functional foot movement is perfection. But for me, his counter punching seems his strongest suit, but then, all the guys you've mentioned (and Arguello) were also brilliant counter punchers.

If he's just a textbook boxer without a punch....he'd be a pure boxer, no?

Love the way his feet and upper body movement and so perfectly in sync. I think you see it well in the Moore fight, an open straight forward guy and until he tires Kalule is all over him, slips and digs all running seamlessly. He really does seem to be trying to get Moore out offbeat, as you and Greg have said, if he knew he couldn't punch he certainly didn't show it.

He was a respectable hitter IMO, because of the way he caught guys, especially the step back out/to the side and counter, or as it's known 'The Ho Joo Train'.

He does seem an awkward blend though does Kalule. Just something about his work that doesn't make him seem all that 'textbook' to me, although those Ugandans were all well-schooled. **** knows who was teaching 'em but he knew his stuff

 

Do any of yous know anything about the Ugandan amateur team around that time poured out some reasonable fighters.

Flea, I d say there is a difference between a boxer-puncher and a boxer, stylistically. Id say a boxer-puncher is using them boxing skills to land hard shots and to do damage, whereas a boxer is all about the points and defence.

 

True, I guess Kalule wouldn't fit into 'pure boxer' then, and I need to stop getting hung up on his lack of power, which is also a myth.

He couldn't bang, but wasn't (sorry to use the same example but a great shorthand for dreadfulness) Calderon in the power department.

 

Or rather stop taking the puncher in boxer-puncher as a literal representation of power.

 

He was sharp, you see it in his shots. He could sting.

:good

 

Sting? Against Ho Joo it was like a nuclear powered JCB Vs a wet patch of turd :twisted: