Ward is More Complete than Pacquiao

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Pacquiao fights like a boss going backwards. He's better going backwards than forwards these days.

    Pac is more complete. Better chin, more power, more stamina, offensive skills, can counter, great combos...

    Ward lacks power, has good stamina but not like Pac. Has good offense but can't throw the combos Pac can throw. Ward can't let his hands go like Pac can. Ward has better D than Pac tho. Ward's chin seems quite average though I wouldn't call it weak.

    overall Pac is more complete.



    From a purely technical standpoint, you could make a case either way.

    Overall not really.
     
  2. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Pac can fight going backwards. He can't fight going forwards anymore. Ward is more complete but Pac much more talented.
     
  3. camden1nj

    camden1nj Active Member Full Member

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    Pacman and Ward's resume of who they beat and when they beat them are both suspect. Ward beat Abraham after he'd been thoroughly embarrassed twice(Dirrell beat him worse than Ward did). Couldn't KO Green who was a fraud anyway. Beat a mental midget on his own home turf in Kessler. Beat Miranda after he'd already been starched. Even his latest fight vs. Froch was 34 year old man who fought Taylor, Kessler, Dirrell and lost the majority of those rounds. Froch even had a limited guy like Pascal catching him with bombs. Pacman lost to Marquez at least once in many opinions and looked dominant offensively against Barrera, Morales, Cotto, and Margarito but all those guys were coming off hard fights and he lost to Morales. Beata 38 year old man in Mosley that Floyd already exposed.
     
  4. Box Box Box

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    only those feather fisted fighters need to master the art of fighting backwards

    and why will you fight backwards if you are winning fighting forward?
     
  5. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol:
     
  6. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    I think Pacquaio's technical ability is getting slightly underrated here on these boards since the Marquez fight. Marquez is an elite level technician, and Pacquaio and him had close fights. For me the reason why Mayweather beats Pacquaio, is because he is as skilled as Marquez, but (and this is why he shut out JMM so convincingly) Mayweather has better athletic ability such as speed, strength and reflexes, he's also naturally bigger.
     
  7. SouthpawJab

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    So? Pac is still better than Andre will ever be...and i love Andre.
     
  8. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    True story. The NBA's career scoring leader was a one trick pony. (Abdul-Jabbar and his sky hook).
     
  9. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    what about guys who just dont wanna get hit as often? what about boxing? what are you talking about?:lol:
     
  10. platnumpapi

    platnumpapi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    umm why would that be up for debate, pacman is fast and strong wild. ward is the best boxer next to mayweather. hes got speed and maybe above average power and the rest is his brains and skill set. hes not as giv=fted as manny in the physical department hell i dont know who is. but when its time to box very few can do it better then ward,
     
  11. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    now look at the number of responses that disagree with yours and you'll see what it would be up for debate
     
  12. JMP

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    My take on this as well. Pacquiao's proven his ability against far superior opposition at this point. People want to criticize Pacquiao's opponents, despite his amazing performances, but Kessler, Froch, Abraham, and Bika aren't exactly murderer's row. You could make the case that Miguel Cotto is better than all of them, let alone somebody like Barrera.
     
  13. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    Really?

    Like who?
     
  14. Whoelsebutjames

    Whoelsebutjames Member Full Member

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    Apples and oranges. What exactly r u proving?

    is that a minor in ur avi?
     
  15. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    well if that wasn't blatantly obvious to you already YDKSABB