Tua, Ibeabuchi, Williams, Young...NOT overrated

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Ibeabuchi pisses over the contenders of today that's for sure. He'd crush Haye, Chambers and Povetkin.
     
  2. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    maybe it was an overrated era but dont you think durable plugs like besmanoff or gerhard zech resembles stander's level? how about wayne bethea? scrap iron johnson was also in the ron stander mold...
     
  3. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Ibeabuchi - Tyson Fury would've been great:D
     
  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Poor Fury :lol: He'd get wasted, and I like the kid, he's tough and he comes to fight. But F'n Hell :patsch :good
     
  5. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    He's fun fighter to watch - his last fight against Pajkic was like Hagler-Hearns:D

    Only little bit less technical.

    Just a little bit:lol:
     
  6. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Haye would have a lot more bothering him than his toe if he ever fought Ike.
     
  7. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I never even seen these names besides of Bethea whom fought liston and got stopped by him (?) . surely not on stander's level . stander was h2h tougher than both Doug Jones & Jerry Quarry . I hope that this comparison helps .
     
  8. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I have seen a lot of stander. Ron was rough, tough and game but limited in the same way that good trial horse types like scrap iron johnson and willie besmanoff were. Liston would have not been knocked out by stander like shavers was. Dont you agree?
     
  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    stander could take norton's,frazier's & shavers' punches .
    as i stated he was tougher h2h than doug jones & jerry quarry .
    i have no idea who r those guys u mention .
    i guess that if they were that tough i would have had some idea about them . d safer bet is on liston beating stander , but liston was not that unstoppable force that SonnyListon'sJab keeps suggesting . taking **** from marty marshall & johnny summerlin was not a great feat , and who did sonny liston beat ? yes , i know d names , but if some1 could take his punches & land his own , who knows ? my guess will b that liston would have beaten stander , just not as easy&quick most believe . poor stander never got a chance 2 prove himself vs quarry , chuvalo , bonavena , cleveland williams (he would have probably stopped williams) , zora folley , if he did , he would have had more wins beside shavers even if his losses would have been more high profile due 2d exposure of fighting on high level .
     
  10. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stander would have been knocked out by prime Jimmy Ellis.
     
  11. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If i only had more place in my sig , this is a candidate 4 QOTY .
     
  12. punchy

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    Ibeabuchi would have caused problems for the Klits, can't see him being bullied like others.
     
  13. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    To perform better than great Sosnowski or Arreola is a tall order - Ike's chances are minimal:)
     
  14. Conn

    Conn Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    the problem with Jimmy young and David tua is that they really put on poor efforts when they got a shot at the title
    Tua had his worked cut out against someone as big as lennox lewis but he seemed to resign himslf in that fight and i think he came in too heavy.
    jimmy Young should have won every round against that fat lazy muhammad ali and fought with a bit more aggresion to erase any doubt in the decison
     
  15. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    He won it anyway..it's the rule that you have to win big, but that's bull****...a win by a point is a win is a win is a win..dammit!:deal