Pacquiao-Marquez did 1.41 million PPV buys - Yahoo Sports

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  1. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    like the main ppv that took only 4 seconds after 2 kicks..:patsch:patsch

    Lesnar the glass heart vs that netherlands dude.
     
  2. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The writer is Dave Meltzer the recognised expert on the pay per view industry. Originally a pro-wrestling writer he has sources across the cable industry that allows him to get provisional estimates within days of events happening.

    The reason Wrestlemania is lower than other numbers quoted is because these are North America only. Unlike boxing and UFC, WWE does a substantial amount of its pay per view business outside of the domestic market.

    To be honest to me the most encouraging stat in these figures is the Cotto/Margarito fight. Shows that properly built up, a fight that means something can actually do good business.
     
  3. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Except UFC made more on pay per view than boxing.

    Except UFC had the highest US television audience (by far) of any combat sport of the year.

    Except UFC had the highest North American attendance of any boxing/mma event of the year.
     
  4. Bogotazo

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    It's good for boxing.
     
  5. Bogotazo

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    1. Boxing: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez, Nov. 12; 1,410,000 buys
    2. Boxing: Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Victor Ortiz, Sept. 19; 1,250,000 buys
    3. Boxing: Manny Pacquiao vs. Shane Mosley, May 7; 1,100,000 buys
    4. UFC 129: Georges St. Pierre vs. Jake Shields, April 30; 800,000 buys
    5. UFC 126: Anderson Silva vs. Vitor Belfort, Feb. 5; 725,000 buys
    6. WWE WrestleMania 27: Headliners John Cena, Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson, The Miz, April 3; 680,000 buys
    7. Boxing: Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito, Dec. 3; 600,000 buys
    8. UFC 133: Jon Jones vs. Rampage Jackson, Sept. 24; 520,000 buys
    9. UFC 128: Jon Jones vs. Mauricio “Shogun” Rua, March 19; 490,000 buys
    10. UFC 140: Jon Jones vs. Lyoto Machida, Dec. 10; 480,000 buys.
     
  6. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hmmmm
     
  7. PowerPuncher

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  8. Bogotazo

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    Fair points, but you could also point to the fact that what passes for a UFC PPV in the boxing world is often a really good edition of Boxing After Dark; the marketing strategies are very different. The real question is whose stars of the next generation will be there. MMA has had some ATG fighters of its own sport, and there is no guarantee the likes of GSP, Silva, etc. are going to be handily replaced by other stars; divisional dominance is a rare thing in the UFC, so the draw of supremacy isn't a ready aspect to rely on. Manny and Floyd have no apparent heirs either, but boxing has historically been able to pass down the torch and keep the sport alive decade after decade with stars, and MMA's historically best fighters don't correlate with the single-fight buying power that boxing has had since the popularity PPV.
     
  9. TecateisBoxing

    TecateisBoxing I will ALWAYS love Boxing Full Member

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    Now folks I'm NOT a UFC fan at all but I would like to say maybe this is what Boxing needs and thats some PPV competition!

    When a monopoly is made the business doesn't have to change it can keep doing the same crap and the money will still come in. Now due to the fact that there is competition now it will have to benefit the fan, Boxing is going to eventually change to bring in more fans. It might turn out for the better and hopefully some of the corruption can go away as well.

    I would like to see Boxing flourish as a sport but in order to do that changes to the sport have to be made and it seems like a little competition might help just do that.
     
  10. Relentless

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    **** ufc aren't doing too bad.
     
  11. Duck Dodgers

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  12. RSBonos

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    UFC still has more from those monthly 200-300k shows. But there is nothing to be proud about for milking your fans for PPV money once, sometimes twice a month.

    For all the talk that the UFC 'learned from boxings mistakes', they are killing their PPV audience by flooding the market just like boxing did 5+ years ago.

    Even without Pac v May I think boxing might beat the UFC for the first time in years in 2012 with just 5 or so PPVs vs the UFCs 14 or so. No more Brock and GSP comes back in late 2012 at the earliest. Besides Jon Jones (Cotto level fame) the UFC is struggling to create new PPV stars.
     
  13. Will Cooling

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    1,410,000 - Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez

    1,250,000 - Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Victor Ortiz

    1,100,000 - Manny Pacquiao vs. Shane Mosley

    800,000 - UFC 129 (St. Pierre vs. Shields)

    785,000 - UFC 124 (St. Pierre vs. Koscheck)

    725,000 - UFC 126 (Anderson Silva vs. Belfort)

    679,000 - WWE WrestleMania (Cena vs. Miz/Rock ref)

    600,000 - Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito

    520,000 - UFC 133 (Jon Jones vs. Jackson)

    490,000 - UFC 128 (Rua vs. Jon Jones)

    480,000 - UFC 140 (Jon Jones vs. Machida)

    335,000 - UFC 134 (Anderson Silva vs. Okami)

    330,000 - UFC 131 (Dos Santos vs. Carwin)

    325,000 - UFC 130 (Jackson vs. Hamill)

    320,000 - UFC 132 (Faber vs. Cruz)

    310,000 - UFC 133 (Ortiz vs. Evans)

    290,000 - UFC 139 (Henderson vs. Rua)

    281,000 - WWE Royal Rumble

    280,000 - UFC 137 (Penn vs. Diaz)

    260,000 - UFC 125 (Edgar vs. Maynard)

    260,000 - UFC 127 (Penn vs. Fitch)

    225,000 - UFC 136 (Edgar vs. Maynard)

    200,000 - Miguel Cotto vs. Ricardo Mayorga

    1,410,000 + 1,250,000 + 1,100,000 + 600,000 + 200,000 = 4,560,000 buys

    800,000 + 725,000 + 520,000 + 490,000 + 480,000 + 335,000 + 330,000 + 325,000 + 320,000 + 310,000 + 290,000 + 280,000 + 260,000 + 225,000 = 5.950,000 buys (still one pay per view to go with provisional numbers suggesting around 800,000 buys)
     
  14. Will Cooling

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    Where are these five pay per views going to come from? This year was unusual in having four. Highly unlikely Floyd's going to fight more than once. And while Cotto did well against Margarito there's no evidence that he can pull big numbers on pay per view without the grudge match angle.
     
  15. Will Cooling

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    I think you're a bit harsh on the quality of UFC PPVs - they've been shockingly deep this year. The problem has been injuries taking out so many main eventers. A lot depends on January 28th and whether the right people win the matches plus how effective FX is in building up fights.