"The most violent man to ever put on a pair of gloves"

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  1. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :verysad Shameful ****. He should have been arrested and never allowed to box professionally again.
     
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    Isn't that what happened? F'n disgrace if they didn't take away his licence after that. He got locked up for it, Kellerman boys helped him out upon his release, gave him a place to stay and all that, and Butler repayed them by hatcheting Max brother's to death. Evil scumbag indeed.
     
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  3. thawk888

    thawk888 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Didn't he also kill Max Kellerman's brother? :think
     
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  4. thawk888

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    Answered my question...
     
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  5. brando18b4h

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    Valeros,
     
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    Scott had serious drug problems and his psychoses were probably drug induced and episodic. Monzon and Ayala (from what I read) were mainly violent towards women, Teddy Atlas punked his ass on national TV once and I nearly stood up and cheered. Butler liked the sucker punch and reportedly had a mental illness, and Ike most likely had boxing related mental problems.

    Of the bunch, I would say Valero and Liston were the most stone violent characters toward everyone they met, with Valero coming out ahead in that category. Liston knew when to shut up, and the big time gangsters would occasionally give him **** just so they could look like big shots, disrespecting the HW champ of the world. Valero, by all accounts, purely didn't give a **** and scared just about everyone he came into contact with, men who've been in the fight game all their lives. He would regularly smack up his stable mates on social occasions, and reportedly got drunk and knocked his buddy Ponce De Leon completely the **** out in a fight at a casino. Nobody at any gym ever had anything good to say about him, but they were real cautious about saying anything overly negative either. I think he just made the hair on the back of your neck stand up when he was around.

    I believe I read that Stanley Ketchel was a really hard and violent guy outside the ring too.
     
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    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The quote was about Gerald McClellan, btw. Dunno who said it.
     
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  8. Divi253

    Divi253 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :shock:
     
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    Sad thing is the scumbag was able to fight again about 2 years later. He had 4 more fights, but committed the murder not long after and then had a long 'holiday' as a fitting reward.
     
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    Zelenoff and it's not even close.
     
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  11. Royal-T-Bag

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    Monzon, Valero, Mitch Green, Battlin Siki, Stanley Ketchel
     
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    Mclellan's trainer said it about him in the documentary 'The Fight Of Our Lives'.
     
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    I actually believe he beat him to death with a hammer. Pick your poison I guess.

    I think the blunt trauma weapon is even more sadistic.
     
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    He did and served a few months in jail. I think he fought a few times afterwards.

    He then went on to Kill Max Kellermans brother.
     
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