Poor raymundo beltran...two back to back robberies

****en hate this sport more when they rob guys like beltran who aint made it yet...two back to back robberiec that could've possibly landed him a title shot....sickening


when superstars get robbed, atleas you know they'll get a rematch, or another huge payday...but these poor guys who nobody even knows will never catch another break......

to me, luis ramos jr is another frankie gomez, they look worst as their careers are trying to break from prospect to contender......

 

Feel bad for the guy, really do.

Should have back to back wins over undefeated prospects. He'd be on his way to a bigger fight by now if not for judges ALWAYS favoring prospects no matter what.

 

**** that's tough man, but just hope it pushes him like it pushed Marquez to not give up. As long as the crowd know who won thats what really counts **** the judges.

 

sux...poor guy

ramos's ****** ass fat fans disrespecting him afterwards didnt help the cause......

 

i'm not gonna let this thread die !!!

 

He didn't get robbed against either.


I had it a draw against Ramos Jr., 95-95....could have been close either way.

The commentators were split on who won and all had it close.


I also had it a draw against Bogere, 95-95 (although Beltran was robbed of rightful knockdown call - and that point would have edged it for him on my card).

The commentators had it a draw as well.

 

He deserves back to back draws with undefeated prospects, which is still very respectable. Just unlucky to have two losses instead. (although I'll grant that the 97-93 scorecards against both Bogere and Ramos were too wide).

 

I agree that he didn't get robbed but I still feel bad for him, I like the guy.

 

bull chet...the dude got robbed

 

OK, what was your RBR scorecard for each one?

Bogere vs. Beltran
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=311514

10-9 Bogere
10-9 Bogere 20-18 Bogere
10-9 Bogere 30-27 Bogere
10-9 Beltran 39-37 Bogere
10-9 Beltran 48-47 Bogere
10-9 Beltran 57-57 tied
10-9 Bogere 67-66 Bogere (close round)
10-9 Beltran 76-76 (ought to be 10-8, Beltran robbed of a knockdown)
10-9 Bogere 86-85 Bogere
10-9 Beltran 95-95 draw


Ramos Jr. vs. Beltran
http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=372457
10-9 Ramos
10-9 Ramos 20-18 Ramos
10-9 Beltran 29-28 Ramos
10-9 Beltran 38-38 tie
10-9 Ramos 48-47 Ramos
10-9 Ramos 58-56 Ramos
10-9 Ramos 68-65 Ramos
10-9 Beltran 77-75 Ramos
10-9 Beltran 86-85 Ramos
10-9 Beltran 95-95 draw

 

Power punches at the halfway mark:

Ramos 93 of 156 60%

Beltran 64 of 191 33%


Stats at the end of ten:

Power punches

Ramos 175 of 330, 53 %


Beltran 145 of 424, 34%


Total punches

190 of 418, 45%


156 of 522, 30%

 

I hate the term robbed. People toss it back-and-forth like a used condom. Both were close fights. He didn't dominate either fight by any means. I understand the want to see the "workman" get the nod in a close fight, but that doesn't make it a robbery if he doesn't.

 

This man speaks the truth :good

 

Sorry, Raymundo didn't get robbed.

Are you sure you scored it round by round and weren't just coming away with the vague impression that he "ought to be winning" since he was the aggressor?

 

u toss used condoms around ??? :barf

you dont have to completely dominate a fight to get robbed....beltran imo had way more rounds in the bag...remember, it's a round by round fight