is helenius a threat to wlad

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  1. eazym1979

    eazym1979 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Helenius can punch but no he's no treat to Wlad, Wladmir is just to talented to lose to

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  2. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    So how did he lose to Purrity, Sanders and Brewster? Or barely get by Peter in there first fight? So talented he lost those fights on purpose just to make things a little hard?
     
  3. Koman600

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    no, that was all before steward

    2011 wlad is completely different from pass wlad

    wlad is alot faster then helenius, and hits harder

    yes wlad has more power then helenius, plus superior technique
     
  4. Koman600

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    your just looking for helenius to be the next "klitschko-killer"... you want wlad to lose so bad, you think robert can beat him

    yet i bet if they ever fight, you would bet on wlad to win
     
  5. Koman600

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    helenius loss to chisora, yet he can beat wlad according to CASH_718
     
  6. Blake Rayne

    Blake Rayne Fat Cuban Aficianado Full Member

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    No way. Wlad can simply step back anytime Robbie throws. Robbie doesn't walk down fighters. Wlad is so much faster than Robbie that it wouldn't be the slightest bit competative.

    That favourite 3 punch combo of Robbie's is thrown from mid ground. He has zero chance of getting it off in a Wlad fight. He'd already be about a foot in range of Wlads jab, right and hook. Fighting at mid range when you're 6'6ish is suicide.

    Robbie has inferior speed, skill, strength, balance, experience, footwork, ring IQ, athletic ability and handsomeness.

    as for the chin well Wlad gets **** he doesn't deserve and Robbie gets overrated. Yes he can take a punch but he can't operate effectively whilst being hit. It resets him far too often and he seems to cover up.

    Also can you explain where Robbie's jab is? Just curious because I would have thought when your right hand is broke you would use your jab instead of letting a fighter walk straight up to your chest a hundred times a round.

    Robbie and Wlad fighting at distance. Jab for jab.:patsch :lol::lol::lol:
     
  7. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    If I had to bet I would bet Helenius even though I think Wlad is the favorite. Doesn't mean Helenius has no chance.

    And I'm not looking for Helenius to be anything it is just my opinion that style wise he is a threat. He's 6'6 and punches like a mule. Wlad has never fought someone that big with that kind of power.

    And he had Steward for the Peter fight and he still looked ****.

    Wlad is not unbeatable and Helenius isn't a bum that has no chance just because he lost to someoen with a complete different style of fighting.

    Nothing Chirsora did vs Helenius Wlad can do. Tell me what Chisora did that Wlad would do to Helenius? Use great head movement to get inside and land combos to the body and head?

    No Wlad is gonna fight Helenius'(and his own) fight. Gonna be a fight fought at a distance and if Wlad is in range to punch unlike most of his smaller opponents Helenius will also be in range to punch.

    I'm sorry that I can actually look at things intelligently and I know what I'm talking about and I'm not a little ***** that overreacts and thinks just because a guy lost a fight doesnt mean he's a bum.
     
  8. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Buster Douglas lost to Tony Tucker but beat Mike Tyson.

    Peterson lost every round vs Bradley yet he beat Khan.

    STyles make fights why is this so hard to understand?

    Chisora is 6'1 and used in fighting and head movement. Wlad is a straight up boxer that fight fom the outside. Two different fighters.:patsch
     
  9. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Ok you guys are right. If boxing actually worked the way you assholes think then this sport would ****ing suck.

    A beat B, B beat C so obviously A beats C.
     
  10. eazym1979

    eazym1979 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Your right he lost to all three earlier in his career but going back to 05 he

    not lost a round except maybe one or two to Thompson. Helenius does

    use his jab at all, is not very mobile and is a slow prodding Hw who will

    not have the speed to catch Wlad with anything of note. Helenius is

    vastly overrated and Wlad vastly underrated.
     
  11. eazym1979

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    Helenius looked like **** against Peter and his knockout of him was impressive but doesnt chance the fact that Wlad Ko Sam the fight before Robert did, and Helenius got hit way to much against Sergi and was in deep water still he hurt him and broke his nose and stopped him a few rounds later. Ive never been sold and Helenius and Chisora came to fight and Helenius was timid in that fight and was luck to get a hometown decision
     
  12. Overhill

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    Yes, until I see him dropped and stopped.
     
  13. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Thompson....... A tall slow heavyweight with no power. If he can have some success and land vs Wlad that how come Helenius can't? And Helenius has lights out power and Thompson has nothing close to that.

    I'm not saying Helenius wopuld win or should be the favorite I'm just saying YES HE IS A THREAT that's all a threat.

    All you assholes keep point at the Chirsora fight but like I asked before tell me one thing that Chirsora did that Wlad can do? Nothing if Wlad beat Helenius it will be completely different then how Chisora did so bringing up that fight is pointless.
     
  14. Blake Rayne

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    So one line out of my post asked about Robbie's jab against Chisora. Conveniently glossed over the rest. Tell me where Robbie wins.

    Is he gonna outbox Wlad? Beat him on the inside? Beat him at range? Beat him with his skills, or his speed? Is he gonna out muscle him? Out think him? Maybe he will fight at mid range and Wlad won't think to hit him?

    See how stupid all of these scenarios are?

    Face it your boy may as well be playing softball for all the chance he has. At least then he'd have a bat to use.
     
  15. Koman600

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    Wlad is stronger. Faster hits harder and has superior technique and ring iq