Joe Calzaghe the greatest super middleweight ever...

Nice one brah :good you only pay attention to the best I see :deal

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Did Ottke win all 4 titles and win the ring mag title? No. Just another **** statement from you and as good as Otkke was he was a clear loser in 1 or 2 of those.

 

Went down in rd. 1 against shot RJJ. **** off.

 

One sided beatdown. In Jones' favour.

 

Depends on Jones in on Steroids or not. He did not do all that well without them :deal

 

What did Toney ever do at SMW? He's a very skilled boxer yes but he didn't have Calzaghe's dedication. If people are gona compare Jirov to JC they can get real, JC's a different class p4p. What did he beat. 10 former, current of futre champs in his career.

 

Calzaghe the greatest in terms of longevity. Most good fighters didn't stick around at 168 for too long.

 

Ward beat Calzaghe? I understand the other two but get the **** out of here with that.

 

To me yes he is, Hed have beaten any supermiddleweight champion through history

Tommy Hearns
Sugar Ray
Roy Jones
Chris Eubank
Nigel Benn
James Toney
Steve Collins
Sven Ottke
Mikkel Kessler
Carl Froch
Lucien Bute
Andre Ward

Joe was just too good, its a shame ****** wasted his years in his prime

 

I am one of the most dedicated Calzaghe fan boys here on ESB, but Calzaghe vs Ward is a 50/50. Ward seems like the real deal to me.

 

I think Ward's a very good boxer but I think Calzaghe would have beaten him. It's not a given and I'm not going to put him on his resume (like Jones and Toney fans think they can with Calzaghe).

 

That was a past prime Calzaghe with shot hands, he was 37 years old. He went down cause Roy hit him with a forearm (accidental), not a punch.

 

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His hands were not bad as Roys chin was by that time...

 

I would say yes right now he is. But by the time Ward retires I think he will have accomplished more and will be the greatest SMW of all time. Time shall tell