Does muscles have anything to do with how hard you punch?

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  1. Earl-hickey

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    I still wonder how Zuri Lawrence even exists, he breaks the laws of physics!
     
  2. knockout artist

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    I think the best example of this is Tommy Hearns. Especially at 147, he looked like a skeleton, yet he had one of the most thunderous right hands in history. He could hit like a Heavyweight! Even though he was 154 in his prime. He could punch far harder than any of these meatheads you get at your local gym, lifting weights all day.
     
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    Yes, but he is a boxer.

    Again, Hearns was 6'1", do you think he hit harder than earnie shavers?

    no, he hit no where near as hard, muscle does play some part, so saying it has nothing to do with it isnt strictly correct
     
  4. Bub

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    Of course. Without muscles you can't move.
     
  5. knockout artist

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    I wasn't saying muscle didn't play a part :lol: It's very important. However, I believe technique and body type is more important. Maybe I misinterpreted the OP's question, but I thought he was curious as to whether weightlifting, and building muscle would significantly improve his punching power, and it wouldn't. Technique, and leverage are more important.
     
  6. iceman71

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    i think the guy is talking about guys the same weight with different physiques
    like
    160 pound ripped guy like nigel benn
    compared to a 160 pound no muscle mike mccallum
    to a 5 foot 7 160 pound inflated muscleman vinny pazienza
     
  7. Slider75

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    Based on my own experience, No! Never let a muscular look and a big mouth fool you..
     
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    I think the science of plyometrics addresses the keys to explosive power in sports fairly well, it's about how efficiently your nervous system recruits motor units during an explosive action, punching or jumping for example.
     
  10. flashy k.o

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    Of course that muscles helps you to hit harder but it depends of what type of fibres you have in your muscles !
    There are two types of muscles fibers , the slow ones and the fast ones . There are people which have more of the fast fibers in their muscles , this type of fibres generates speed / explosion ! With prorper training you can develop that punching power ! Also without technique power is useless. I think is more about of your genes !

    I've seen people with big muscles in boxing gyms which couldn't hit harder , didn't have that explosion !

    Also the structure of your bones , tendons , joints .... how strong are , can be very important in the punching power.
     
  11. Cableaddict

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    You might have a point there. Foreman may have been deceptively faster than I typically think of him. - But he was definitely a bit top-heavy, and definitely didn't always use his legs, so hmmm.. You could still say that his heavy arms made up for his (partial) lack of technique.

    If you want to argue that he was "naturally strong," they you are arguing against the point. "strong" means strong muscles, which we all pretty much know are not a big factor here.

    Maybe an interesting fighter to look at / analyze would be Helenius. He doesn't seem very fast, but Lord knows he has 1-punch KO power.
     
  12. Blake Rayne

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    :good

    Speed is vitally important.

    Newton's Second Law

    F=MA

    F-Force
    M-Mass
    A-Acceleration

    so

    Punching Power = Weight of Punch x Speed



    Muscles play a part obviously but there are lots of factors. Leverage, tecnique, muscle constitution, weight/density of bone, muscle origin and insertion points in relation to length of limbs, Plaster of Paris, roids etc
     
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    i think the conditioning of your muscles is more important than size of them, to be able to sustain and maxamise your power output.
     
  14. leo_messi

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    I would of thought speed and technique would of been more important.
     
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