1979 vs. 2011

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  1. KOTF

    KOTF Bingooo Full Member

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    Who wins these match-ups:

    Vitali Klitschko vs. Larry Holmes
    Andre Ward vs. Matthew Saad Muhammad
    Sergio Martinez vs. Vito Antuofermo
    Floyd Mayweather vs. Wilfred Benitez
    JMM vs. Jim Watt
    Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Danny Lopez
    Lupe Pintor vs. Nonito Donaire
    Miguel Canto vs. Hernan Marquez
     
  2. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hmm...

    Holmes (Close UD)
    Saad (Come from behind 11th round stoppage)
    Martinez (Competitive but clear UD)
    Mayweather (hotly disputed SD)
    Little Red (6th round KO after a wild fight where both hit the canvas.)
    Donaire (MD)
    Canto (Clear UD)
     
  3. Goyourownway

    Goyourownway Insanity enthusiast Full Member

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    Gamboa would light Lopez up like a christmas tree,and I say that as someone who really doesn't like or appreciate his style.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Holmes
    Ward
    Martinez
    Benitez
    Jmm
    Gamboa
    Donaire
    Canto
     
  5. Liechhardt

    Liechhardt Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holmes ko 7
    Saad ko 9
    Antuofermo close W 15
    Mayweather close W 15
    Marquez W15
    Lopez ko 5
    Pintor ko 13
    Canto W 15.
     
  6. TAC602

    TAC602 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Holmes
    Muhammad
    Martinez
    Benitez
    Marquez
    Lopez
    Donaire
    Canto
     
  7. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Vitali Klitschko vs. Larry Holmes
    Andre Ward vs. Matthew Saad Muhammad
    Sergio Martinez vs. Vito Antuofermo
    Floyd Mayweather vs. Wilfred Benitez
    JMM vs. Jim Watt
    Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Danny Lopez
    Lupe Pintor vs. Nonito Donaire
    Miguel Canto vs. Hernan Marquez
     
  8. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Vitali Klitschko vs. Larry Holmes - Holmes wide UD
    Andre Ward vs. Matthew Saad Muhammad - Ward SD
    Sergio Martinez vs. Vito Antuofermo - Martinez UD
    Floyd Mayweather vs. Wilfred Benitez- Great match up, Benitez SD
    JMM vs. Jim Watt - close fight, JMM MD
    Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Danny Lopez - Gamboa TKO, great fight....too much speed for Danny...
    Lupe Pintor vs. Nonito Donaire - close fight, Pintor by TKO.....
    Miguel Canto vs. Hernan Marquez - Canto UD
     
  9. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Bit early to be picking Ward over Saad is it not?.

    Lets wait a while

    Same with Gamboa and to a lesser extent, Donaire.They would be in with by far the best fighters they would be fighting to date and we don't have a full career yet to analyse, both haven't exactly fought a murderers row to be giving the benefit of the doubt and i don't see obvious great talent in either that would have me easily overriding caution.


    Vitali Klitschko vs. Larry Holmes = Holmes clear UD in an awkward ugly fight.Jab ultimately too much for Vitali as a steady pointscoring weapon, a much better one than any he has in his arsenal and Holmes mobility should let him dictate exchanges for long stretches.

    Andre Ward vs. Matthew Saad Muhammad = Saad should be heavily favoured as is.Not interested in Ward hypotheticals yet.


    Sergio Martinez vs. Vito Antuofermo= I think Vito is being sold a bit short here.The level of mauling pressure fighting and swarming he showed against Corro and Hagler should be enough to take a decision over Martinez, who is too sloppy and hittable a fighter(and likes his breaks, hell he needed a 2-3 round one against sloooow footed Pavlik)to matador for 12 or 15.Vito 10-5'ish decision pulling away over the last third.Martinez with a much better chance in a non-title ten rounder where his early speed advantage would tell more.

    Floyd Mayweather vs. Wilfred Benitez= El radar simply much more active and sharper than todays semi-retired Floyd.This assuming a focused Benitez, as a disciplined Mayweather could still make things very close against a Benitez who doesn't bother to move his feet and just coasts on defence.A fight Benites SHOULD win.


    JMM vs. Jim Watt= Not too sure.Marquez would be well-suited to handling Watt comfortably(albeit still getting hit a helluva lot)with both at their peak, as Watt always struggled with busy textbook fighters who threw lots of educated combos and didn't fence him with him.He's older and slower here though and Watt's slow retreat backfoot style and extremely accurate busy jab would frustrate as Juan undoubtably forced to lead.Marquez is still better rounded(and Watt is starting to slow himself at this stage) and should be able to force the issue well enough to take a close- maybe controversial for some -decision; landing enough leads and counter combinations to offset Watt's constant jab.


    Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Danny Lopez= Gamboa might blister the slow starting, easy to hit Lopez and floor him early, but he's a sloppy mess of a fighter with a seemingly low ring-iq as of yet.Lopez gets up and horribly caves his skull in with his efficient accurate straight punches, all that wasted energy and sloppy movement isn't going to cut it over the distance and he's highly unlikely to stop Lopez early.Difficult to imagine Gamboa improving enough to win this.


    Lupe Pintor vs. Nonito Donaire= Not too sure about this one.Pintor was a slow burning fighter who was only just starting to come into his own as an overall boxer-puncher, and not just a stalking powerpuncher.Perhaps slightly vulnerable to certain styles at this tage, yet the Zarate bout showed he could fight well against a very tall, great technical punching Bantam(even if Zarate was perhaps not 100% recovered from the Gomez loss mentally yet).Donaire has fought far lesser fighters and stylistically i'd be inclined to Pintor the benefit of the doubt as of yet, though would be less shocked if he lost than if Lopez did.A lot busier and should be able to grind out a win at close-mid range, while faring well on the outside if he opts to fight cautious or gets hurt.


    Miguel Canto vs. Hernan Marquez = Canto past his peak should still win handily.
     
  10. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Saad would ****ing murder Ward :lol:
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Holmes via close decision, as Vital is now 40


    Ward via boring decision. Too much speed.


    Martinez via decision, Antuofermo was tough, but not as skilled


    Mayweather via close decision. Benitez would not be able to counter punch him.


    Can't say I saw much of Watt. No call here.


    Gamboa TkO over Lopez with some calling it the fight of the year.
     
  12. Jimjom

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    wards only chance is that he's too featherfisted to actually hurt saad and provoke a come from behind brutal finish :lol:
     
  13. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Vitali Klitschko vs. Larry Holmes - I favour Holmes prime to prime but this version of Holmes has big speed/reflex advantages
    Andre Ward vs. Matthew Saad Muhammad - close fight, I think Ward is a more complete package
    Sergio Martinez vs. Vito Antuofermo - I don't really think much of Antuofermo
    Floyd Mayweather vs. Wilfred Benitez - Mayweather is overall the better of the 2 greats
    JMM vs. Jim Watt - Marquez is a level above
    Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Danny Lopez - Gamboa far too quick
    Lupe Pintor vs. Nonito Donaire - Donaire is an ATG
    Miguel Canto vs. Hernan Marquez - Canto is another level
     
  14. Jimjom

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    Holmes
    Saad
    Martinez
    Benitez
    Jmm
    Gamboa
    Donaire
    Canto
     
  15. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Gamboa gets hit a lot and Lopez was murderous puncher.

    Would Gamboa be focused enough to stop Lopez and not to catch a anything that leaves him on the floor for a long time?