Straight Right/Overhand Right, Right Cross- the same?

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  1. bman100

    bman100 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I read in the general forum that there is a distinct difference between the straight right hand and the right cross, classic has a lot of knowledge on the technical side of boxing. So, are they one and the same or different (how so?) Anyone else ever heard they were different?
     
  2. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    The straight is well straight, the overhand goes upwards and downwards in an arc producing more power but it's not as quick as a straight punch. The cross is a straight right thrown across the body when an opponent is at an angle because of your defensive position that you may swing your hips into a little to generate more power
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    There are no strict definitions which is why it breeds some confusion. I've seen coaches describe an over-hand right as a punch which differs only from the cross in that the elbow is higher.

    So, you're going to get a lot of different answers to the question and none of them are right and none of them are really wrong.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I guess the best way to say it is most coaches will train the straight right, then as you get more into the sport you learn varieties on that punch which people try to name etc., which adds to the confusion. But the basic punch is the straight right-hand, palm facing the floor, arm straight from the shoulder, upon execution.
     
  5. Conn

    Conn Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    in England, traditionally we've used right cross and straight right interchangeably. i mostly heard right cross
    (then again, some particular fighter might throw his cross in such a arc-ing way that it might seem wrong to call it "straight")

    overhand right i've always thought as more of an American term, and even an American variation of the punch.
    any right cross (ie. a roughly straight right from an orthodox stance to opponent's head) that comes over or torques downward on impact is an overhand right, or if it crosses over a left jab it can be considered overhand too.
    The terms certainly overlap.

    but that's just my understanding. i dont know what's being taught these days.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    In Mayweather-Mosley, 1st landed right Mosley is a straight/cross (he misses on overhand just after), 2nd landed big shot is an overhand. The overhand in exagerated form

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJKLm8cZJpU[/ame]

    Armstrond used the overhand to great effect, lifting his elbow and often dropping his right foot behind his body to create leverage

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzA68zatfaQ[/ame]

    The overhand is harder to land at range and is best used at mid/close range
     
  7. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    A very exaggerated very telegraphed overhand, but I think this highlights the difference though

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqf42bsTXnY&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL11618783BE2C921E[/ame]
     
  8. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    There IS a difference and it mainly depends on your opponents lead hand and how you're countering it and if you're countering it. You would go over the top with a cross and a straight right hand is thrown through the middle and doesn't change shape like the right cross (hence why it's also called an overhand right as it goes over the jab most of the time). The right hand straight takes a straight line. It really is what it says on the tin.

    There is also a difference when throwing it from long range or short range (the cross is used more at shorter range and the straight at longer range). Benard Hopkins probably throws these two punches the best. The cross as a six inch punch on the inside and the straight as a brillient lead from the outside.
     
  9. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    What McGrain said.

    Bottom line, an overhand right is a looped arced punch, while many coaches etc will use straight right\right cross interchangeably to mean a straight textbook shot.Slightly different terms and nicknames for punches in different gyms, countries etc.

    ie some East coast American types will no doubt identify a right hand counter over the jab as a philly mayweather pull-counter or some other made up shite.
     
  10. the cobra

    the cobra Awesomeizationism! Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    :lol:
     
  12. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not really. If those coaches are saying that they dont know what they are talking about.

    PP's description for the most part is correct.

    Although I would disagree an overhand right produces more power.
     
  13. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    All three punches (for orthodox fighters) are delivered from the back hand and can all be called a "big right hand" even though each look different.

    Even though punches off the front hand can still be "power shots" (using a pivot of the hips and turning over the shoulder) with right hander’s off the back foot you bring the right shoulder forward with it. The weight comes off the back foot for all three shots and through the arm. Its why all 3 are described as a “power shot” and often why less description is required as to if it is a cross, overhand or straight right or not.

    As the other posters have described each travel a different path.

    1. “the over hand right” is pulled back and comes "over the head".

    2. “the straight right comes” direct from the stance aimed with very little pull back in line with the right foot.

    3. The “right cross” lands across, it lands with the right hand over the left foot.
     
  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    depends on the person. some fighters can develop more whip and snap one way around than another. I dont think you can say all men throw a harder over hand than a cross.
     
  15. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Well I agree but didnt think I needed to specify that. Im sure some guys can produce more power looping it but not everyone.