The bigest disgrace in sport

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by grouche, Jan 9, 2012.


  1. Blake Rayne

    Blake Rayne Fat Cuban Aficianado Full Member

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    Quantify that statement if you are so damn educated. You can't can you. So why insult us then?
     
  2. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    you remember saying military sales? well, in america, the military is controlled by the government. enough said.
     
  3. m8te

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    like I said before, it doesnt matter why they did it. the fact is, they did it and their involvement swiftly brought an end to the second world war. i'm not trying to avoid answering your question, I just honestly feel your question is a total non-issue.
     
  4. JASPER

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    BUT if you dispute the "fact" that the US came in on a white horse to save the day you area fool . . . lol.

    the US entered the war when US interest were at risk. I am not saying this is good or bad it is only reality. Either they were afraid that Germany would become the dominate nation or heaven forbid that the Russians defeat the Nazis and claim Europe. Besides there was the advancements of nuclear technology by Adolf and the gang. As you put it the Americans never entered the war to save the Jews . . . if they did, they would have welcomed them with open arms after the war!


    BTW, do not imply that the good old red white and blue did not win the war single handily again:bart:bart
     
  5. JASPER

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    And no private industries sell military equipment to the US and other governments?
     
  6. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    military sales, to me, mean sales by military, as well as most other people who've mastered the english language.
     
  7. Blake Rayne

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    You tried to belittle the plight of the Jews and disident germans by comparing their lives to those of civil rights activists two decades later in the US. I think your reasoning is far more inappropriate honestly.

    One is a slow burn struggle against Tyrany over a long period with, like you said, systemic discrimination and dehuminization, the other was a decade long campaign of discrimination, dehumatization, torture and death on a scale that cannot be compared to anything else in the West's history.
     
  8. Blake Rayne

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    Why would that be the case? Couldn't it just as easily mean sales to the military? The military produces nothing itself. Everything starts with private industry. This is an industry with a ton of restrictions placed upon it specifically so that private enterprise can sell without having to go through the Military.
     
  9. m8te

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    at the time, most people of the world would have taken their own individual leaders over Stalin and/or Hitler. Oh yeah, and Adolf Hitler, the greatest war criminal and absolute psychopathic murderer, getting a hold of nuclear weaponry is no big deal whatsoever. and americans never entered the war to save the Jews? that may not have been their main objective, but freeing POW's was an objective, and how many thousands of Jews flocked to america during and after WWII? and in addition to letting survivors in, The United Nations, a group that the USA was apart of, created the state of Israel. your anti american sentiment is disgusting. it would help if your knowledge equaled your clear disdain.
     
  10. JASPER

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    Well I guess you are wrong again on both counts:good. Meant to say arms sales or military equipment sales and just combined the two . . . it happens to the best of us!:hi:

    you were so focused on that minute point that you lost sight of the overall argument. lol
     
  11. praetorianJJ

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    Actually no. This came later. I don't think America, or Britain for that matter, would have gotten involved if they knew that the Russians would be able to turn the Germans. Remember that it was later in the war that the extent of the concentration camps became well known, even at the highest levels.
     
  12. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    your poor baby statement is much more uncalled for, not to mention unnecessary comments like, show me the american death camps? I never went that far. I made a simple comparison that I think holds true in terms of the systematic effort to make an entire group of citizens, seem less than human. it's not my fault that you can only look at it in terms of method and therefore attempt to discredit my statement.
     
  13. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    come on bro, your pathetic at this point. end of the day, you were the one who made the initial mistake. you cant expect me to correct your mistakes. you shouldnt be making them in the first place, especially in an argument like this. this isnt *******s vs. *****s. bring your best **** or stay out of it.
     
  14. m8te

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    in america, military sales refer to the army surplus industry, where merchants licensed by the military sell military supplies and weaponry. that's what I thought he meant, so that whole quote was absolutely worthless, honestly.
     
  15. JASPER

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    the state of state of Israel? You think that was a great idea . . . lol! I am not being Anti-American . . . I am only trying to enlighten you to the truth. The truth is a hard pill to swallow eh . . .lol.

    I will lay awake all night tonight upset that I have disgusted you . . .lol

    you keep believing what you are told and stay in the dark. Yeah, freeing POW was one of the intentions of entering the war like WMDs in Iraq. Wake up.

    :deal