Jerry Quarry v Zara Folley

Quarry by a decision...a competitive bout until round 6 when Jerry hurts and decks Folley. The kd would be the marging of victory.

 

Are we talking real time? If Zora had gotten to an inexperienced Jerry before Machen did, Folley might have handed him the same sort of boxing lesson Bob Foster got.

Best for best is more of a challenge. Zora did not share Machen's durability. However, he was extremely proficient with his jab and a straighter puncher. If he can keep this largely at range, he could overcome a knockdown or two to snag the decision.

I'm leaning towards Folley. I think he was smarter, and had better stamina. Not putting any money on that though, because Jerry was certainly dangerous enough to take him out. But I believe Zora would apply due caution and intelligence in this situation.

Need to scrutinize Folley footage more carefully to be more confident of my admittedly tentative conclusion though.

 

Folley might be able to cut him up and stop him. Folley was a sharp puncher.

The best version of Folley that I have seen on film is against Bonavena the first time. His jab is like Quartey's in there, constantly popping Oscar's head back. Quarry probably poses more of a threat then Bonavena based on his combinations and versatility, but i think Zora would probably take this.

 

I'm still not convinced Zara's stepdad is innocent.

But yes, i see them splitting a trilogy. Zora could possibly win two decisions.

 

Speed and Movement is basically what bothered Quarry... Folley had both, (even if it wasn't on the level on Ali), he would've cut Quarry up imo.

 

True, which is why i lightly lean toward two decisions to him. Cuts is a possibility tho sure not a certainty.

 

Zora, at his best, probably against Chuvalo, would Present certain problems with his undoubted Skills mobility and Technical excellance, However Jerry, on his game, was not the one-paced, stright Line George that probably flattered Zora as a tailor made opponent, ? Unlike George, Jerry had good head movement to in part, nullify Zora's Jab, Its when Jerry "Go's to War.." that i think cracks appear in Zora's "Steady-Eddie" approach, Jerry usually had an excuse when losing against any bar Ali and Frazier, Ellis was disc/Back Trouble, Chuvalo a mis-timed count, Machen Inexperiance, Norton Passed it - But we know what Jerry was capable of when on song - What was Zora's excuses for the Cooper and Jones Defeats ? (Albeit going 1 to 1 with them ) - Zora would be good as a professor of "Boxing" in a Classroom - But Jerry, a peak Jerry, Would i think prove too unruly a pupil at "Fighting" , The Gown, Morter Board and Cane gets junked around the 9th.

 

I don't agree that Folley had great movement - in fact, I think that's one area where he clearly falls short. For the most part, he tended to stand flatfooted and rely on head- and upper body movement to avoid punches, which sometimes allowed him to be outboxed himself (as against Henry Cooper) or vulnerable to big punchers who just let their hands fly (Liston, Lavorante, Doug Jones).

As for this matchup, it's tough to call IMO. I could potentially see Quarry using his footwork and counterpunching abiliy to outbox Folley, but Folley also had a very sneaky and effective right hand, which he could find a home for and do a lot of damage with. Also, Quarry found a way to blow fights probably even more than Folley did.

 

Interesting matchup of two of my favorite fighters. Too close to call IMO . If Folley would have had a better chin I would pick him to win yet I can still see him pulling it off with his boxing skills plus he had some decent power as well; Cooper 2nd fight , DeJohn, watch the first part of the second Jones fight before he got himself KOed.

 

Zora was a good vet heavy. he was smart ,cute,pretty fair puncher. he outboxed Chuvalo,Bonavena. But he did have trouble vs. good power hitting guys like Jerry. That 7th rd. was fatal vs. Doug Jones, Lavorante. Prime vs prime I like Jerry to ax Zora about... the 7th!!!!!

 

I don't think Quarry hits quite enough to pull thgat ace out of the bag. Zora was a good boxer with a top level jab that would take him to the close and hardfought decision win here. Not to mention his right hand which parked the likes of Bonavena. Pickem fight really

wow reading throughj the thread Zora has a lot of support! I was expecting Quarry to be the fav but maybe itll change when more people pick.

 

Zora Folley by lopsided decision.

A past prime Eddie Machen easily outboxed Jerry Quarry in 1966. It was before Quarry fought the likes of Frazier, Ali, and Norton... it's was about 14 1/2 months into his pro career actually. Machen went just 1-3 in his next 4 fights, including a 10th round stoppage to Joe Frazier in 1966, then retired.

Folley and Machen were pretty much on par IMO. They fought to a 12 round draw in 1958 and Folley won a somewhat close 12 round decision in their 1960 rematch. They were similar in size.

Folley was the better boxer but Machen was more durable IMO. A past prime Folley gave Ali a good fight in 1967 before being stopped in the 7th.

Folley beat Nino Valdes, Wayne Bethea X2, Mike DeJohn, went 1-0-1 vs. Machen, went 1-1 vs. Doug Jones, beat Billy Daniels, George Chuvalo (who stopped Quarry), Karl Mildenberger, Oscar Bonavena, Bob Foster, Henry Clark, and others. On his best night he outboxes the best version of Quarry.