Chirosa Vs Haye

The fact Helenius lost to Chisora says all you need to know about his ability...

Valuev was better even...

Does the fact Haye retired after the Wlad defeat mean he wasn't prime when Wlad beat him?

When was Valuev's peak?

 

Bump.

 

Who, J? :think

 

But both guys are better than Valuev.I know Sky hyped him as some sort on giant wrecking machine but he was just a circus freak with a a pair of gloves on.One of the worst champions of all time.

No because Haye is still very much prime and hes only retired because of some silly ritual to do with his birthday.Hes not retired because hes past it.

Its a tough one but his best performance was against Liakhovich in early 08 but he was always shocking. He lost to Evander Holyfield in the fight before Haye for Gods sake:verysadHow old was he at the time?

 

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Do you like me:hat

 

You're stretching it a bit. Valuev was below average but he presented problems because he moved well for his size, had a good, hard jab and was very fit. Haye neutralised him in a way that Holyfield and Ruiz didn't.

Neither Chisora nor Helenius would have beaten Valuev. Chisora would have either eaten a jab all night (if Helenius punched out of the guard, it would have been a fairly simple win, IMO) or gotten tied up on the inside, and Helenius would have just gotten out-worked sitting behind his guard.

 

Using proper English? Yeah, totally spells a ****. Or an inferiority complex in the reader.

The irony is that your posts in reply to me were much longer than my original ones.

 

They make The Sun for people like you. Who's the one saying he's "hard" over the internet? Really intimidating.

 

Yeah I forgot Valuev had ONE loss before he fought Haye, so he was clearly well past his prime Come on mate, he retired after that cause he had made his money simple as that I think. You just hate him cause Haye isnt interested in being your mates ***** hahahaahha

 

Chisora is leagues above both of those fighters.

 

:rofl

 

Ruiz has a better resume than Delboy, no question.

 

All that that proves is you thought that helenius was better than he actually was

 

You actually know less than you think you do and bleat about it....have a drink, go to bed and it'll all be alright in the morning :thumbsup