If he was really serious about fighting Pac he would go to the table with an open mind to choose the right date with the Pac team seams to me he was counting on Pac to say "f you you don't get to dictate when and where" there for to the rest who are ignorant to how negotiations work, it would seam that Pac is ducking him. He ...they need to sit down and negotiate in stead of tweeting then this fight would happen Floyd was counting on you dummys to fall for his **** ...and you did:roll:
Wow great point, I've heard no one say this, after reading this I will completely disregard Schaefer's attempt to work out something with Arum following JMM IV, Floyd calling Manny out directly prior to the Ortiz fight, calling him out after the fight, calling him out via twitter, calling him out on Facebook, and even pushing back his jail sentence to meet Manny, all because of your stellar point " don't try and dictate with Manny".
If Floyd didnt do it like that he would've been in jail right now. I think thats the only reason why he booke the MGM grand cause they knew they could convince the judges to wait till the fight was over since a date is on. The only one ducking is Arum
All the stupid **** you just mentioned validates my point .... none of it coming to the table an siting down like men
Check your facts buddy. They actually did try to negotiate the traditional way: http://www.fighthype.com/pages/content11552.html They tried the traditional way and now they are trying to bruteforce it. And yet with all the people watching Arum/Pac still duck 5th may for what reasons? Not the cut anymore, not the stadium anymore, what then? Pac said in the post-fight interview to get it on on 5th may. So what changed?? Time to promote?? What will two weeks more do? Are they hoping to mess up with Floyd mentally (the day before jailtime)?
You just got destroyed. Don't create threads like this when the subject matter is beyond dispute. The fans, the media and 90% of the boxing fraternity say that Manny/ Top Rank **** themselves and that's it, mate. PS - The other 10% are Pacquiao fans who can't accept that Manny's team are ducking.
****in hell, Team Pac was already talking about a 4th fight with Marquez right after they announced Manny had won a MD. Does that tell you they're serious about a fight with Floyd?? Mayweather has NEVER called out anyone besides Pac, or at least not to my knowledge, since he became a PPV draw. That tells you Floyd has gone out of his way to get the ball rolling in the right direction at the very least. Why stall and continue to put up roadblocks? Team Pac could've responded with, "Hey Floyd! Yeah *****, we'll step up anytime, any place. Pac will murder you and give the Mexicans a real reason to celebrate Cinco de Mayo. Let's do this. If you're serious let's put up cameras in our negotiation room so the fans can receive undisputed facts. Take the camera test, punk."
omg if the shoe fits ****ing wear it, its bob arum.l he knows floyd will beat pacman. so he wants to make a few million off pacman before lil floyd whips that ass. i understand it, its shity but i dont understand coming from bob's point. bob is like man fuuck all you fools i do what i want when i want, and contrary to popular opinion bob is the one in charge no pacman. get that **** straight once and for all. nobody to blame but bob, pacman was never in charge and it was never up to him or will be. he just happen to fight a few guys bob did'nt care about because they were his fighters or he knew pac would win.he knows pac want when this one so he is stalling.
How the hell can Floyd's team even make it to the table when Bob Arum told them flat-out that Top Rank wasn't interested in negotiating the fight. To meet at the table you got to agree to negotiate first. Bob Arum hasn't even crossed that line yet. But, hey, we haven't even heard from anything so MAYBE they are speaking to each other. Basically we have to wait and see.