Marquez Defeating Pacquiao DOES NOT Indicate Pac Loses to Floyd- A Technical Summary

Ortiz's left is much less accurate there and telegraphs his rush much worse than Pacquiao ever would with feints. His footwork is far inferior and doesn't utiize the right positioning when seeking to get his foot on the outside like Pac does. Manny does throw wildly at times and Floyd's right is very accurate, but I never disputed that. My point is that if Floyd fights in straight lines, the fight will be competitive because Manny can switch to an angle faster than Floyd can react to it and do damage; whether Floyd neglects lateral movement like he has in the past is another issue. Patterns are more important than single-moment similarities.

 

Manny would have to come on his A-Game. Those double-triple jabs you mention aren't something I would call telegraphed punches, but they do give away those shots. Manny does those the most when he's desperately chasing an opponent, and if he lacks the discipline early, he won't have the chance to be competitive. Floyd I don't think will make Manny chase. Pacquiao has to bring every weapon in his arsenal and capitalize on his footspeed to change the angle. I had Judah winning 4 rounds against Floyd and losing the 5th round by just a little, and I believe Pacquiao might do better. The Key is in the feet, and if Floyd neglects lateral movement, he may have more trouble than people think. You're entitled to your opinion on the winner of course and raise good points, but my only point is that some Floyd habits may be a liability against a gifted offensive southpaw. I think the most dynamic, hungry, and well-prepared Pacquiao has a chance. Hopefully he strives for that so we get a good fight, when/if it ever gets made.

 

I'm going to post some images and comments I posted in another thread that I think are relevant, largely in part because they took so freakin long to make despite being so simple.

(Please don't post unless you have something relevant or insightful to say and can say it respectfully; the nut-huggery of late has given me a headache and weeding out trollish counter-arguments for the dignity of the thread is tiring.)


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Manny makes a ton of mistakes that people are very well familiar with by now.

But as I've said, I think Floyd has a few habits that can become mistakes that could prove dangerous liabilities against Pacquiao.

Failing to get that lead foot on the outside and neglecting proper in-range lateral movement will cost him, as he will be constantly susceptible to left straights behind a jab and as lead punches, to the body and head, as he backs up in a straight back or leans backwards in his angled stance:

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Cutting the ring off as he usually does against Southpaws to eliminate that angle is his probable line of action in the early-mid rounds, though if he attempts to apply pressure without still incorporating that movement of the lead foot to the outside (and Manny will be the most mobile opponent he's faced), he will throw out of position and expose himself to a hard right-hook counter, as well as land with his feet mis-aligned. His right hand can do nothing from that vulnerable angle either:

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Just my opinion and some things to think about.


(Sorry for the crappy quality. This is the best I can do until I put my video together.)

 

Well Ortiz there is pushing up against him to land on the inside, which Pac doesn't really do, and Floyd is generally very good at escaping the pocket to new angles, but is hardly ever in a position to attack once he's there, and frequently circles the wrong way (to his opponent's left) instead of the right, which would suit him far better and his opponent far worse.

(And Ortiz's footwork is generally mediocre.)