DLH was such a fantastic boxer

I say he beat all three and two of them he beat pretty clearly. So that's a weird statement to me.

 

He would of never in a million years been able to withstand SRL, SRR, Duran, Thomas Hearns, Marvin Hagler EVER

 

WW and JMW where the divisions he proved to be great, but not so great that he'd be favored in many ATG matchups. Struggled with an old Whitaker like you mentioned, and Quartey, could only fight Trinidad for 8-9 rounds before he ran out of gas, lost to Mosley at WW fighting a stupid fight, and of course the brutal Pacquiao beating which everyone now wants to show sympathy for despite everyone being highly critical of him when he made the fight and with a loss expected to have been hugely embarrassing for his legacy.

Mighty impressive that he went up and fought the 3 long reigning champs one after the other at welter, when they wouldn't fight each other for 5 years, but his perfomances should not be overrated.

His most impressive performances at WW were guys who didn't belong at the weight, Gatti, Chavez, Camacho (fought at MW fight before and after, looked drained), contenders Oba Carr and Wilfredo Rivera and average mandatories like Patrick Charpentier, Derrell Coley, David Kamau.

At JMW his most impressive wins were Vargas, Castillejo, the ghost of Yory Boy Campas, Ricardo Mayorga, Steve Forbes. Mosley fight was a disputed decision, he may have won, but not convincingly. He lost to Mayweather having chosen the weight, gloves and ring size in his biggest fight there. Again, flattered to decieve, was great against guys with the style to make him look good, not near as great against the best.

 

good to see there are competent people on these boards

 

He was the same size - a skinny kid. This bs he was fighting smaller guys is just that BS. He was 24 yrs old, a kid, skinnier than most of his opponents and weaker. Just had a wicked left hook and speed that killed them.
Ruelas, Hernandez, Miguel were all champions or undefeated when he fought them.
He was dropped what, 3 times in 50 fights? and that means he's not great?
He would give manny hell in his prime as a lightweight and I don't think Manny would escape without getting ko'd by his lefthook.

 

And how can you even think to discredit his performance vs. a PRIME mayweather? Oscar was on the road to being shot, old, slower and lost his punch yet still managed to win 4-5 rounds that fight. Amazing feat and one unlike any other Mayweather opponent has pulled off, except Castillo.

 

Oscar won MAYBE 3 rounds while getting picked apart all night, and thoroughly outbox what planet are you from?

 

I'm talking about at those weights. Fans act like Oscar was an unbeatable monster at SFW and LW when Ruelas is the guy real champ he beat at a weight. Here you are saying he'd KO Pacquiao, who hasn't been close to being KO'd from 122-150 having consistently fought the best. Oscar wasn't confident enough at LW to fight the best lightweight at the time, MA Gonzalez.. and Leija, Hernandez, Molina were SFWs he skipped fighting when he was in their division and only fought at LW. Those are just facts. He wins there shouldn't be overrated just because of the names

 

He wasn't shot, and proved a strong and skilful opponent for Floyd. he did pick the venue, weight, gloves and ring size. Again just stating facts. It was a good performance vs the P4P #1, no doubt aided by his advantages, but he still lost and faded again.

 

Oscar beat more champions and former champions and top fighters than any 90's fighter.

Jorge Paez
John John Molina
Rafael Ruelas
Genaro Hernandez
Jesse james Leija
Julio Cesar Chavez X2
Miguel Angel Gonzalez
Pernell Whitaker
Hector Camacho
Wilfredo Rivera
Ike Quartey
Oba Carr
Felix Trinidad
Arturo Gatti
Fernando Vargas
Shane Mosley
Ricardo Mayorga

Show me 3 fighters with a deeper resume.

 

I was an Oscarsexual. Still have his KO magazine posters framed on my garage wall. I hated how haters would underrate him in his prime. I don't like how he gets overrated now. He was a great fighter who proved he could be competitive with the best of his era. That's where it ends, he did not seperate himself from his peers like the true elites Roy Jones, Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, and Leonard, Hagler, before them. I find these predictions he'd destroy guys like Pacquiao and Mayweather at his best ridiculous.

 

In his PRIME, who did he lose to? Shane Mosley...and who else?

 

Great resume no doubt, few if any can match on names. Many of those guys weren't champions or top fighters in the divisions he beat them in, that's the facade I hate.

 

Tell me the MANY of which you speak of. :think

 

Well some argue he lost to Trinidad, Whitaker, Quartey as well (I thought he beat Whitaker, Quartey by a round, scored it for Trinidad). Point is he didn't seperate himself in a way which justifies the claims now that he'd easily beat guys who did convincingly win their biggest fights and proved beyond a doubt they were the best of their era's like Pac and Floyd.