Can team Cotto devise a gameplan based on....

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  1. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    movement and fighting off the backfoot to frustrate Pacquiao? as was proven in the Mosley fight Pacquiao has trouble cutting off the ring (though in saying that he did successfully chase down Cotto in their first fight) but if team Cotto can come up with a gameplan based on movement (similar to the 2nd Marg fight but more advanced) could he eek out a decision?

    Now obviosuly Cotto doesn't have the technical or counter punching skills of a Marquez but he hits harder then Marquez and if he's able to pick his shots he may just be able to pull it off. Waaaar Cotto? anyone? :think
     
  2. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Doesn't have the reflexes or hand speed. He isn't going to be able to throw without not being hit himself. As soon as he lets his hands go he isn't going to be able to slip whats coming back at him. He will have to be very very conservative thinking defense first and avoid getting caught up in thinking he can hurt Pac.

    But the main problem is he isn't going to have the stamina to do it for 12 rds compared to Pac.
     
  3. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Hand speed is probably what's going to be his undoing.
     
  4. jso416

    jso416 F U Nutthuggers!!! Full Member

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    This
     
  5. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    He needs to work on his right hand a lot
     
  6. peter5

    peter5 Marco.A.Barrera Full Member

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    Im not sure he's athletic enough/has the reflexes to do it enough, he might be able to do it for 3/4/ rounds, but this aint margarito throwing slow ass punches his way. His stamina will come into play, and eventually he will be caught in a firefight, which we know from experience he cannot withstand.
     
  7. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    He admitted to Stewart that Pac was too fast but Stewart claimed he could help him with some adjustments to counter that. He dropped Stewart though. Not sure if Stewart was right and I really don't know much about his last/current? trainer? Miguel needs to put in some time with one trainer if he is going to fight Pac again.
     
  8. JMP

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    He gets too tired and becomes too sloppy later in fights now to implement the plan for a full 12. I think moving away from Pacquiao, using his jab, and countering with right hands would be his best option though.
     
  9. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I think he should alternate between using lateral movement and counter-punches with bullying Pac on the inside in spots and throwing combinations to the head and body. He showed great movement in his last fight, a tight guard, good head movement, and a very varied offense. It's feasible, as long as he keeps his lead foot on the outside consistently while moving backwards/circling and being defensively responsible while going forwards.

    But I'd be so torn if this fight happens. I love Cotto and would want him to win, but I would want Manny to fight Floyd first.
     
  10. larrysmith

    larrysmith Guest

    he needs to get off first and clinch,rough manny up and frustrate him
     
  11. Guybino

    Guybino Boxing Addict Full Member

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    im rooting for Cotto big time, would love to see him beat pac just to **** over arum.
     
  12. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cotto will need to show a lot of movement but the key will be if cotto can and will sit a lot more on his punches. You cant just move around slapping punches with not much power like he did vs margarito. He has to pick his spot to sit on his punches and trade then move around. If he cant sit on his punches to hurt pack and make him respect him then pacquiao will just walk him down.

    :hat
     
  13. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Forget that, I want Cotto to brutally KO Pacquiao then set up a fight with Mayweather.
     
  14. bballchamp11

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    Cotto has the slowest reflexes ever. I can't count the number of times he tries to shoulder roll AFTER getting hit.
     
  15. AnthonyW

    AnthonyW ESB Official Gif Poster Full Member

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    He was quite evasive in the latter rounds against Pacquiao, frustrating Pacquiao. He showed excellent footwork against Margarito, but that is Margarito. If he continues to sharpen up that area, especially the lateral movement, plus knowing when to exchange with Pacquiao...mainly on the inside, he could be more competitive.

    Speed is the difference though.