Is finding fault with Mayweather as a boxer..

...like looking for a pimple on Miss America?

 

JG

you been around boxing for a very long time. where would you rate or rank Mayweather strictly in terms of skills?

bball

 

no its like looking for wrinkles on barbara walter's face.......

 

There are definitely faults there to see, from outside the ring...whether they can be capitalized on inside the ring is another story. I'll start the ball rolling.

He likes to go back in straight lines towards the ropes...but again he is very comfortable in that situation.
He can fall in with his straight right...again though, his best tool, and rarely, rarely see anyone capitalize on it.
He only fights in phases when he is comfortable doing so, but again, his ring generalship is second to none, and he controls the pace rather than letting his opponent do so.

 

:yep you would have to really have a trainers eyes for boxing. i dout a fan from home could say oh look he did that when he was suppose to do this. im sure he makes mistakes but there are small and the window to capitalize on it is closed just as quick as it open.

my thing is why do every fighters try rush and bully him. everyone since he was a kid people would always try run him over. the way people fight mayweather is
all the same. to them the key is to let your hands go and pressure him. well guess what thats NOT THE KEY AND NEVER WAS THE KEY DUMMIES :good

 

Floyd's not the stone killer SRR was, b, but he's as gifted, poised, skillful, resilient 'n junk-yard tough as any boxer I've ever seen.

 

I dont think its as much as finding faults as every boxer has faults and habits. The main problem is finding a way to exploit the faults and floyd does a brilliant job of masking any faults he makes.

 

As a fan I'd say:

1. His jab isn't that good and he could be outjabbed by an elite jabber

2. If you are good enough to have an equal connect percentage and you're a better boxer you can outfight him

3. If you have a great workrate, can land at a good connect percentage, can force the fight....then you can outland him.

4. His straight right sees his chin quite high and he could be countered with a left hook or southpaw straight left if his opponent is a good enough counter puncher

 

Floyd's jab is pretty damn good. He got the better of the jabbing contest in the fight with Oscar. Stab to the body, flickers, and stick then move laterally was clowning Oscar.

 

john garfield- a man who knows his stuff!


If I had to choose one fault in Floyd it would be stepping off the pedal too often when he has someone ready for the taking but at the same time this very fault is one of those thing sthat keep him undefeated by not taking unecessary risks. Floyds best attribute= his ring IQ

 

1. Floyd is a master at taking opponents jabs away. (see Oscar)

2. Floyd would slowly shut everything down as you do it. You may have a good connect percentage at first, but as each weapon stops working, it would dramatically go down. (See Marquez)

3. Great workrate wouldn't do more than get you countered in the face until you either got stopped or stopped throwing. Floyd's about as defensively sound and accurate as it comes. Forcing the fight with a high workrate may trouble Floyd and keep him on his toes, but he's still going to win convincingly. You won't land at a high percentage with those attributes. (See Hatton)

4. That's quite possible, but I would have expected Oscar or Marquez to exploit that if it was true. I can see the southpaw straight left causing him trouble at first (like the Zab fight) but you better knock him out with it or he'll catch on really quickly.

That's the thing with Floyd, you can't experiment or he'll adapt and shut down your tactics. You have to make every move count and time it perfectly. (you also better have about seven or eight strategies)

 

On pure boxing ability, would you rank Pep higher than Floyd, John & if so by how much, is it clear cut or is Mayweather up there near him ?
(I know you`ve seen Willie at his best)

 

Watching Willie float rings around good fighters, twisting 'em into pretzels 'n tattooing 'em with jabs 'n feather-fisted combos made one wanna jump to his feet, shout OLE!!! 'n award him the ears 'n tail.

But Floyd and Willie are apples 'n oranges -- DNA blessed wizards.

Floyd's textbook. Willie was a water bug that barely touched the canvas...'n he did it most of the time after a night of pub crawling.

 

Honestly, here's Mayweathers faults as a boxer. No power, fights only washed up or smaller fighter or fighters with no real skills. Never throws combination, only one at a time. Horrible body puncher. He can't fight backing up. Only fights as a counter puncher unless he fights smaller or older fighters. Horrible technique when he throws punches. He's basically a smaller version of Roy Jones. Athletically skilled, fast feet and super reflexes. Neither looks like a real fighter only athletic. Sugar Ray Robinson and Sugar Ray Leonard were complete all around fighters with speed, power, defense, combination punching, fight good going forward or backwards, and never ducked anyone. Great fighters with athletic ability, but their technique was that of a true fighter.

 

:huh
Floyd Mayweather JR?