Floyd Fought Oscar at 154.. Why Limit Sergio Fight to 150?

I don't agree with it, also think catchweights are a joke but thats how it is. The top draw always calls the shots, its been that way since srl. Which is the earliest catchweight fight I can remember

 

In a way yes. If the opponent asks for a catchweight, that implies that their is no disadvantage to them and their comfortable with the weight.

But if you ask an opponent to drain themselves when they haven't requested so, then there is likely to be an advantage.

At the same time, all catch weights are bull****.

Hence why a lot of catchweight fights in history are tainted. (Not to enrage some fans whose favourite fighters' best win [or one of] is at a catchweight).

 

Floyd walks around +150. Serg around 175. The difference btween a 36 yo Ser and a 34 y/o DLH is that Oscar fought so many wars against so many top elite fighters from 135-160. Whereas Serg has only recently (4yrs or so,) climbed to the top of the ladder and his LOC has not been near to that of DLHs.
DLH was also a straight up fighter relying on his jab to create distance and his body attack inside. Serg fights at angles and uses an UC on the inside to great advantage.

That'd been a good fight. But bringing the 36 y/o Martinez down to 150 is basically signing his fatwa. Mayweather would likely KO him at that weight. 154 seems a much fairer and closer fight.

 

Catch weights weren't the problem, the problem was fighting at catch weights to earn titles. Like the WW title at 145, or a made up vacant JMW title at 150. If its just a catch weight fight with no titles and both fighters feel comfortable at the weight. Then id still rather it not be a catch weight and be at 154 but at least no titles are exchanging and its just a fight to fight.

Martinez is a guy who relies a lot on his speed and reflexes not really his power. If he feels he with a nutritionist get down to 150 without killing himself then it shouldn't really effect his fighting ability since it relies on speed and reflexes. Now if he only relied on strength and power then cutting down in weight would mean more. Plus Mayweather doesn't rely on power either so cutting down in weight isn't going to weaken Martinez to the point that Mayweather is going to be able to knock him out or anything. Cutting weight to face a power puncher would also mean more.

 

I agree.

Serg, at his age, at 154+, is a magnificent win for Floyd and would elevate his ATG ranking a lot.

150, as I've stated numerous times, is a lose lose situation and would do little. Even if Martinez looked like a god, if Floyd won, 150 would be all the excuses ANYBODY would need to downgrade the win.

 

I also don't support catchweight fights but let's not bash one fighter for doing this while giving others a pass for doing these as well. So catchweights is part of the game you say? Let' just be fair on both sides on it.

 

Floyd may walk around at 150lb+, but it doesn't change the fact that he looked lethargic at the higher weight. Martinez would also look slow and lethargic if he was to enter the ring at 165+.

I don't want the 150lb catchweight bout, pointless. I think Martinez could still comfortably make 154lbs at least one more time in his career. I just don't see Mayweather stepping up to Light Middle again.

 

Fair enough, but tbh, there are still alot of things to be discussed from that one.

 

look Martinez ask for a fight. Floyd said he can do it at 150, so take it or leave it. There will be no titles on the line anyways so doesn't matter what weight they compete at. It is not like Floyd is saying he will fight martinez for his 160lb title. if they is the case then it will be different.

 

Regarding the titles, it doesn't imply you don't get to win the belt if you don't make the agreed catchweight fight, I think you know that already. Catchweights are just additional stipulations, just for a financial sense obligation but it doesn't influence the belt to adjust it's own stipulated weight. You can also win the belt even without making the catchweights as long as you make the weight of the belt itself. 141-147 is part of the WW, 148-154 is part of the JMW. WW/JMW belt represents the weight class around those so it really should be on the line, imo. But to make it fair, any fighter doesn't need to follow catchweight as long as you make the stipulated weight then you can still win/defend the belt. That is if you're only after the belt :good

 

I wasn't talking about the title that Martinez brings, I was just talking about the 'Catchweight' itself. Anyway, if that's the case then people should start embracing catchweight fights maybe.

 

I think is ok if Floyd is not fighting for Martinez middle weight title. If he is then it is messed up and not right, like what Pac did with Cotto's 154lb title. I think if you are going to challenge the champ's title then you need to fight at the champ's weight otherwise no title.

With that being said. weight classes are decided by boxing commitee, it doesn't mean that the human body struggles at different sections of weight. So if title is not on the line then it doesn't matter what two fighters agree upon. I know i am just repeating myself now but is just my two cents. I don't see anything wrong with what Floyd replied.

 

He shouldn't, if he's gonna fight Martinez it should be at 154, that said I don't think Martinez would have a problem getting back up and rehydrating by fight night, but it isn't necessary, so why do it. If not at 154, don't fight Martinez...

 

Yes, but @ 154 the catchweight is not the real 'catchweight' that makes the big issue cause 154 is a JMW limit. It's part of the proper stipulation of weightclasses