Floyd Fought Oscar at 154.. Why Limit Sergio Fight to 150?

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  1. jan_fan

    jan_fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I'm one of those people who doesn't like seeing catchweights in title fights but doesn't it sound odd if you'd get beaten inside the weight where you carry your title but your belt is not on the line? It's like 'Yeah I got beaten by someone inside JMW class but it's ok cause I still carry the belt on my waist so I'm still the world champ'. Doesn't it look weird seeing someone get ass-kicked inside his division yet he is the best in the division afterwards? Try to picture it out

    BTW, it's was for Cotto's 147 lb title not 154
     
  2. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Sounds like a win win situation for Maritinez. If he gets beat by floyd at 150. He still have the title at 160lb and cashed in on big pay bc lets be real here, Martinez is the only person around floyd's weight class that have a solid chance of beating Floyd due to his size and above decent boxing skills, but most of all, he got one punch ko power too that is required if you want a chance to beat floyd. Pretty awesome deal for Martinez.
     
  3. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ur right. 147 fought at 144 catchweight.
     
  4. jjnight

    jjnight Active Member Full Member

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    Why not make Sergio fight like
    Pac did Ocar did at 145? Pacman did way worst
     
  5. Leonard

    Leonard Boxing Addict Full Member

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    exactly. like i said before, this is a very winnable fight for floyd at 154. it takes a lot of luster off if they do it at 150. high risk, yes. but i imagine the reward would be equally high.
     
  6. jan_fan

    jan_fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, but Martinez would look fool assuming Floyd fights him inside MW class (155-160) but the title is not on the line and floyd beats him there but Martinez is still the world champ @ MW. Martinez would look like a paper champ after that. :-(
     
  7. jan_fan

    jan_fan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yuh, I get it. 144 (actually 145) lb for Cotto's WW (141-147) belt
     
  8. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    Oh right so you havent followed Mayweather's matchmaking in the last 3 years :D

    Answer - because he wants the physical advantage of fighting a weight drained fighter

    Or ................... he doesnt want to fight Martinez as technically speaking he is a MW and has given him an un realistic weight target , as that would be fair IMO
     
  9. Leonard

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    just so you can say pac did worse you'd be fine seeing a non competitive fight between a dehydrated sergio vs floyd? we already saw what it did to oscar it ain't exactly great watching a one sided beating. yeah, and oscar was the one who pushed for the catchweight, not pac.

    i'm just saying, we already know floyd's way above the competition at 147 and below. sergio is a winnable and exciting fight for floyd exactly because sergio would pose considerable risk at 154.
     
  10. tliang1000

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    I think Oscar was looking for an easy win against a smaller fighter and That was the dumbest move that Oscar have ever made on his career. How the hell someone who haven't been at 147 for years agree to drop from 160 to 147? He had av fluids pumped into him bc he was so dehydrated. He over did it. On night of fight he was only 149, while pac was 150. He should have rehydrate back to 154-160 like margo. Oscar is a ******. Oscar starve himself so the public will accept the fight and he was walking around 149 like an idiot. He should've walk around 155-160.
     
  11. tliang1000

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    If Sergio is smart, he will do it like Margarito have done it at 147 for years. Which is walk around 160 or 165 and lose 15-17lbs of water weight and rehydrate back to 160-165 on fight night. Floyd will show up 149-152 like he usually does and Martinez can still have advantage. Rather if Martinez can be smart about it and use it in his advantage is another thing. at 150, Martinez still have physical advantage, even if he walks around 160 and lose 10lbs for weigh in shouldn't faze him much.
     
  12. Concrete

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    Again Mayweather was just replying to a comment, he did not demand the fight be at 150 ,yet anyway. Lets wait until they start negotiating if they ever do.
     
  13. Leonard

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    exactly. sergio has been practically begging for this fight. this fight imo is a good way to get back to the fans after all the frustration arum has caused specially as of late. would be a good treat. sergio would come in good condition but i don't see him overpowering floyd anyway as he fights at a distance. highly doubtful too if sergio can generate enough power if his opponent moves well and is tough to hit, unlike pwill.
     
  14. Leonard

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    not fingerpointing here. it's just that the fight would have more substance if they do it at 154, regardless of what sergio claims he can make.
     
  15. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mayweather's body has grown and acclamated itself to 147 lbs.
    He's a bigger welterweight now than he was when he fought DLH.

    When the DLH fight took place almost 5 years ago, Mayweather was capable of fully dropping and fighting at 140 lbs with relative ease.

    Mayweather weighed in at 150 lbs, but if I'm not mistaken it was reported he climbed the ring weighing less than that vs DLH.

    He's a bigger and stronger Welter now and has better punching power than he did then.


    People failed to remember that a welterweight Mayweather rocked and stunned a still capable DLH at 154 lbs which was DLH's ideal weight at the time.
    On a couple of occasions against the smaller Mayweather, DLH's legs were taken out of him by Mayweather loaded up single shots.

    Pacquiao's shots for instance never had that type of effect on DLH, so I think that tells you right there who's punches carry more weight and force behind them between Mayweather and Pacquiao.

    .....the sign is actually significant. Pacquiao's punches did'nt have that type of effect on DLH, despite DLH climbing the ring completely dehydrated and actually weighing less than what Pacquiao weighed.

    DLH had at the very least a 10 lbs (likely more) weight advantage on Mayweather on fight night.
    Pacquiao I believe had a 2 lbs weight advantage over DLH and still his punches did'nt move DLH the way Mayweather's moved him.