Padding records to get to the UFC

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by JayF, Jan 24, 2012.


  1. JayF

    JayF Active Member Full Member

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    Here's a little blog/brain fart I had on the matter. Definitely two sides to the coin, but you can draw your own conclusions. I know where I'd rather be:

    http://www.yourmma.tv/blog/uk-mma-blog-pad-em-up/

    It's been a hot topic for a while but a tweet regarding Oliveira losing to Gonzaga at UFC 142 was the initial muse, let me know your thoughts...
     
  2. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    It is about career progression and levels.

    Sure, a padded record might get you into the UFC but it might get you cut after 1 loss where you can't handle the step up.

    I think the UFC has shown on multiple occassions that is about the streak a fighter is on. They have signed multiple fighters with average looks records, even coming off of a loss or only 1 or 2 good wins. Hardy, Daley, McKee, Santiago... All different cases. Hardy has losses and after 4 losses in the UFC hasn't been cut, McKee was on a streak but got cut after 1 loss. Santiago has a few losses, was on a streak but 2 losses later he is cut from the UFC.

    It is no secret about what the UFC want in a fighter. It is applicable 95% of the time.
     
  3. rusty nails

    rusty nails Tszyu for PM!! Full Member

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    the ufc seem like theyre more interested in a fighter for a specific purpose than their record.
    for instance they brought in nick diaz because hes recognised as one of the best out there but they keep jorge rivera around because they recognise hes a tough customer who fights his heart out and will provide newcomers a good introduction to their ranks.
    not everyone there can be a champion.
     
  4. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its a huge problem in Britain accordiing to the people I've spoken to. Managers ****-scarred of putting their guys in with real opponents because they think the UFC is a mark for the 0.
     
  5. Stoo

    Stoo Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Interesting read Jay, thanks for posting. I didnt realise this was a problem in MMA
     
  6. amhlilhaus

    amhlilhaus Well-Known Member Full Member

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    it's the modern combat sport mentality. a loss means you suck and it's the fans fault to a large degree.
     
  7. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    I think that this applies mostly to boxing, MMA not so much. It seems that it's much easier to suffer a loss in MMA because of the so many ways there are to win a fight. Managers are fools if they really believe that the '0' means much if their fighter hasn't really faced decent opponents.
     
  8. AJAX

    AJAX war sonnen! Full Member

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    I would say that's more of a boxing reaility then UFC .but at the same time if you can't beat a live opponet you won't be getting far anyhow.
     
  9. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    What examples do UK fighters have? Terry Etim, Che Mills, Bisping was undefeated but came through TUF, Daley, Hardy etc???

    I think it is ONLY applicable for TUF where they want a few undefeated prospects but likewise they want a few veterans too.