Is Roy Jones Jr. Hurting his Legacy by Continuing on?

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  1. Player3

    Player3 Active Player Full Member

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    Hopkins, Toney, Thulani Malinga & Julio Cesar Gonzalez >>>>> Benn, Eubank & Michalczewski
     
  2. CHAL_DIESEL

    CHAL_DIESEL GOAT Full Member

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    I replied to that yesterday why would I waste my time repeating myself? I am not going to argue with you repeating myself each and every day. While you may like to repeat yourself I don't have the time or energy to.
     
  3. CHAL_DIESEL

    CHAL_DIESEL GOAT Full Member

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    None of them guys would travel to America to fight him why does he need to go to them?
     
  4. CHAL_DIESEL

    CHAL_DIESEL GOAT Full Member

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    I explained that to him yesterday.
     
  5. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    That's right, respond to a fellow delusional Jones fanboy rather than taking one solitary minute to read four scant paragraphs and form an intelligent response to my detailed and irrefutable counterpoint. You are ducking the argument and that is fine by me because you are proving my point that Roy Jones is a joke and that his fanboys live on what they think he "could" have done rather than what he did do which, frankly, wasn't much in the scheme of things.
     
  6. CHAL_DIESEL

    CHAL_DIESEL GOAT Full Member

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    No I simply refuse to go back and write exactly what I wrote yesterday, and read exactly what you post each and every single day
     
  7. MrOliverKlozoff

    MrOliverKlozoff The guy in shades Full Member

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    This page is soooooooooooooo full of ignore list messages for me.
     
  8. CHAL_DIESEL

    CHAL_DIESEL GOAT Full Member

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    "Every one of your posts involve you rearranging the words to make the same exact post that you had before. Boring fights? He thoroughly outboxed two fighters who were legends 20 years after he beat them. With one of them being the current reigning light heavyweight champ. Also, why do you keep saying that "Glass Jaws are real they exist in boxing"? Everyone knows they exist of course figuratively speaking, and I don't remember seeing anybody saying they don't, so why do you keep saying it like that as if you were some ******ed robot.

    Nunn-got stopped by Toney 3 years before Roy Jones UD'd him, lost to club fighter Steve Little, and to Frankie Lyles

    Nigel Benn- Proved he wasn't even the best fighter in his own country(Steve Collins), fought less then 5 times outside of the UK, and lost to Thuliana Milanga who RJJ put an ass whooping on. Steve Collins lost to Mike McCallum who RJJ destroyed.

    McClellan- Only last 7 years as a pro, with a handful of title fights. Who got ko'd by Nigel Benn, and lost to 11-2-1 Dennis Minton(who)?, and 12-3 Ralph Ward(who)?

    Chris Eubank- His first 5 fights with the last one in 1987 were the only times he didn't fight in the United States to avoid the better fighters. Why didn't he come over to the states to fight James Toney, B-Hop, or RJJ? His toughest opponent was Steve Collins who was outclassed by Mike McCallum, who was THOROUGHLY outboxed by RJJ.

    Jones would of beaten all four very easily"

    This from yesterday to respond to the same thing you say each and everyday.
     
  9. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    You never answered it, you simply ducked the points and countered with "he was P4P #1". Sorry, it doesn't work that way. An ATG beats his greatest contemporaries and he makes the big fights happen. When you explain how a guy never beats a lineal, unified, or undisputed champion and doesn't fight the biggest fights available to him and is still the greatest Boxer of all-time I will gladly change my stance. Unfortunately, duckers and cherrypickers cannot be the GOAT and cannot realistically be ranked in the Top 10 ATGs. That is fact. All the nuthugging you can muster will not change that.

    McClellan or Benn would more than likely have walked him down and shattered his Glass Jaw in less than six.

    Eubank very well could have done it if the Eubank who fought Benn showed up. The tentative Eubank would have lost a decision.

    Nunn was stylistic cyanide for him with his slick Southpaw style and he would have boxed Roid up for a decision or late stoppage.

    Michalczewski probably would have stopped him in the late rounds though I concede that Roid could have outslicked and outsped him for a decision. Too bad Roid blatantly ducked him leaving this as a hypothetical fantasy match-up.
     
  10. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    Nunn was handling Toney before he got caught with a Hail Mary shot. He had a Glass Jaw and could be caught but Jones sucks against Southpaws and would have caught hell with one as fast as Nunn. Jones could conceivably win but after seeing a slower Southpaw in Tarver handle Roid three times I would favor Nunn.

    Benn lost to Collins and Malinga at the end of his career. In his Prime he beat Malinga in a clear points win and when he was shot and past it he still managed to go to a SD with him. Benn had real power, the sort that Roid made it a point to avoid, and he would have probably walked him down and flattened him.

    McClellan could be outboxed and he could fade in the later rounds but given Roid's disgraceful Glass Jaw the fight probably wouldn't have made it to the later rounds. McClellan beat him in the amateurs and Roid wanted no part of him in the pros.

    As for Eubank not travelling, why should he have to? Boxing is international and if Roid not travelling so "he wouldn't get robbed" is a legitimate reason why doesn't it go both ways? Great champions go where the big fights are or they find a way to make them happen. Roid never did either and chose to make exhorbitant demands or overprice himself when fights against punchers came up. This is common knowledge to anyone watching Boxing at the time. They called him Reluctant Roy for a reason.

    Your hero is a Glass Jawed Fraud.:deal
     
  11. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    I don't know how a steroid cheat could have so many fans. It's almost as bad as Margarito's brick hands.
     
  12. Chempasillo

    Chempasillo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    what a dumb question...he does hurt his leg since a long time
     
  13. Player3

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    Riveting tale and all... but if you require a gift descision to beat a Thulani Malinga level fighter, your not a Roy Jones caliber fighter.

    If you lose your 0 to a Julio Cesar Gonzalez level fighter, you're not a Roy Jones caliber fighter.

    Sorry pal.
     
  14. CHAL_DIESEL

    CHAL_DIESEL GOAT Full Member

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    This guy is so delusional it is obvious he is either a European, a bigot or both
     
  15. MetalMandible

    MetalMandible Chinchecker Full Member

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    Sorry, I'm neither. It doesn't require a European bigot to see that Jones always had one of the worst Chins in Boxing, to realize that he didn't fight any big punchers who could actually box, and to put two and two together and see that all of the fighters I named had a great chance to smash his disgraceful Glass Mandible into smithereens. You can make excuses for him all you want but Reluctant Roid Jones never fought the best fighters available to him which is exactly why nuthuggers like yourself have the luxury of sitting back and saying what he "would have" done to them. If he actually felt that he could have easily beaten any one of them he would have but instead he punched out no-hopers who moonlighted as cab drivers and sanitary workers.

    He is a disgrace to Boxing and it is hilarious watching this so-called ATG P4P fighter get his China Chin obliterated every time he fights someone with a pulse these days. I like to think of it as karma for ducking the big boys back in the day!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::rofl:rofl:rofl