The 'what fights did you watch today?' thread

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by ishy, Feb 26, 2009.


  1. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Starting Aoh vs Boschiero now.
     
  2. SportsLeader

    SportsLeader Chilling Full Member

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    I'm going a kip. Will have your analysis for breakfast.
     
  3. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    You don't happen to have an RBR of your scorecard do you? Would like to compare.
     
  4. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Well **** you then Snow White. I hope you get trapped on a bus in your nightmares.
     
  5. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    Takahiro Aoh vs Devis Boschiero

    This really slipped under the radar in terms of horrible decisions from last year, eh? I had it 117-110 Boschiero, he won this fight clearly, no two ways about it. There were probably about 3/4 swing rounds where Devis was inactive and Aoh was ragged but at least working in some capacity, in which case I ended up giving just about all of those rounds to Aoh. There's no way I can understand anybody giving him more than 4 though.

    For me he lost it due to awful foot positioning. The first thing I noted when the fight commenced was how open Boschiero was to the left hand side of the body, something I assumed the southpaw Aoh would be taking advantage of, but instead he kept circling - bizarrely - to his left, away from Boschiero's weakness and into his right hand. Don't get me wrong, he landed a LOT to the body, but only a very small percentage were telling blows, because he was nullifying the effects of them with his own movement. He kept on throwing a right hook to the body but moving to his left while doing so, which meant he just continuously cuffed him with completely ineffective shots. In turn Devis was able to fire in bombs from his rear hand up the middle and through Aoh's porous guard regularly. By letting Aoh do what he wanted to Boschiero was turning the fight in his favour because Takahiro kept putting his right foot inside the Italian's left.

    He kept falling short every time he threw the left too, both high and low. What made it worse was not only was he falling short it it and allowing Boschiero to come over with clean right hands, he was dropping his right when he released the left and letting Devis counter with clean left hooks too! It was madness, the most heinously uneducated offensive performance you're likely to find. Furthermore, when he was nailed with a right he'd back up straight away most of the time, but he'd do it(Rungvisai-style) with his hands down and even worse would once again move in the vicinity of Boschiero's right. So essentially, when he was trying to evade right hands he was moving towards them while off-balance.:mad: It didn't help that he threw the jab-left-right hook down low every time with no variation, Boschiero had a field day timing him over the top when he stepped back and made Aoh fall in.

    When I read reports on this fight Boschiero was criticised for being jab-negligent, but I think it aided him here actually. Leading with rights and left hooks just made it harder for Aoh to figure him out in my opinion, you could see how baffled he was when Boschiero would attempt to steam-roller him after he threw rather than him trying to jab his way into range which appeared to be what Taka was anticipating, there was no way he could time him on the way in. He probably should've been busier however, becuase despite landing by far the more telling shots round after round there were quite a few periods of nothingness where he'd stay stationary and let Aoh hit his guard, which in theory shouldn't win Aoh the rounds, but if you're allowing yourself to be outworked to that degree away from home you're always leaving the door ajar for this kind of decision to happen.

    That and being open to the body would be my only criticisms regarding this fight though, because that aside he fought a superb fight. He stayed compact and kept his guard supremely tight(you could count on one hand the amount of times he was caught cleanly to the cranium), placed his foot outside Aoh's and picked his moments to assault brilliantly, he landed his right hand at will because of how well he timed it, often during Aoh's stepping when his feet weren't set, catching him unprepared and making his work look a lot more eye-catching as a result. A rematch is more than warranted here.
     
  6. SportsLeader

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    I've got RBR scoring, I'll post it up when I get in.
     
  7. SportsLeader

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    Boschiero: 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11 & 12
    Aoh: 1, 4 & 9

    Not that Aoh convincingly won those rounds, he just didn't do as badly as he did in the rest. Did you reckon Aoh looked uncharacteristically weak, j? I thought he looked very soft and easily bullied. Boschiero was hardly getting physical with him, yet Aoh was folding like a bad hand. Aoh carried none of his usual sharp-ness into this fight.

    That's a very in depth breakdown, haven't seen you crack one of them off in a while :good
     
  8. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    That's almost identical to how I had it, I can't remember if I gave Aoh the 4th or the 5th but those two coupled with the other duo you gave him were the only rounds I could see an argument for him taking.

    I agree, he looked very lethargic. ''Folding'' really is the operative word, was it just me or did he bend right over(no homo) just about every time Boschiero came forward? He'd just languish with his head almost below his waist, and Devis would often crack him with a right uppercut as a result, and he looked baffled as to why the ref hadn't done anything about it despite there being no infringements committed. Strange. He was able to shove a nice left hand in here and there, but for the most part he was cuffing with his shots or taking the effect out of them himself because of how he moved, looked a bit weak physically as well, got man-handled on the few occasions there was a clinch.

    I've been slacking lately(as the fact it's taken me around 3 months to watch this would suggest), haven't even bumped my FNF's thread in around a fortnight. Hoping this'll get me back into the proverbial swing of things.
     
  9. Flea Man

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    Sweetboxing has closed down :-(
     
  10. SportsLeader

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    Do you reckon there'll be a rematch? Aoh seems honorable, he got his return against Larios after a close one in that fight, seems only fair that he should grant Boschiero a rematch should he request it. The thing is though, Boschiero doesn't seem to be chasing a rematch, strangely enough, so whether it happens is doubtful.
     
  11. SportsLeader

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    It has. I'm actually really devastated. So many fighters I planned to watch extensively, but can't because they closed it down. I might message Obama (the guy who does almost all the uploads) and ask him to re-upload all the fights to a different file sharing sight.

    I can't express how gutted I am about what happened :-(
     
  12. jpab19

    jpab19 Exploding Muffin Dad Full Member

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    I've never really used SweetBoxing or MegaUpload. I suppose I've gotten off lightly with all of these closings.

    I'd be doubtful. I can't imagine Aoh would be actively seeking a return, which would mean Boschiero would probably have to push for one, which he doesn't seem to be doing. I don't know, frankly, I'm useless when it comes to the ''politics'' of boxing, all I know is that there should be a rematch.
     
  13. SportsLeader

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    I reckon Aoh's days as a champ might be numbered. Boschiero looked solid, but not outstanding. A decent contender might just take Aoh's title.
     
  14. DrMo

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    Marvin Johnson vs Eddie Mustafa Muhammad

    A really good fight, aggressive southpaw vs orthodox counter-puncher. Johnson started strong winning the 1st but Eddie adjusts & starts timing him in the 2nd & drops him with a nice combination in the 3rd.

    Marvin switched tactics & in the 4th, 5th & most of 6th he pounds away at close range wins the rounds on volume with not a lot coming back.

    By the 7th Marvin is starting to tire, Eddie lands hard counters to the body & head & he stuns Marvin with a big right hook at the end of the 9th. In the 10th Eddie wobbles him again with another right to the head & then hurts him with a counter right to the body. By the 11th Marvin looks spent & the ref stops him absorbing more punishment.

    Very good performance by Eddie, he just breaks Marvin down with well timed counter bodyshots & right hands.
     
  15. Jdsm

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    Canzoneri - Chocolate
    Toney - Barkley