julio caesar chavez sr in prime vs pacman @140 lbs who wins ???

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  1. danieljenkins

    danieljenkins Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Chavez breaks him down with body shots stops him in 10 maybe being slightly behind on the score cards
     
  2. KO-KING

    KO-KING Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac, bad style match up for JCC, Pac is tough enough to stay there with chavez and his speed will be to much for chavez to handle, Haven't looked at other posts but am Pretty sure chavez is gonna dominate here, older fighters will get overrated, Like Mayweather said he will only get his full due respect about 10-20 years after he retires, same applies to pac
     
  3. Borincano

    Borincano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow.
     
  4. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    dunno, but goddam that would be the fight of the century.
     
  5. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Chavez is bigger, stronger, tougher & better than Marquez... he`d break Pacquiao down, he`s on a different level from Pac.
     
  6. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    If you watch, Chavez rarely got hit cleanly by Taylor, and my point is that Taylor still got hurt and ultimately knocked out despite his success with volume.

    Whitaker had success with his offensive output because his defensive movement got him in place to do so. Pacquiao is not going to move the same way at all, nor is he going to throw from the same distance. Him being a defensive southpaw doesn't reinforce Pacquiao's chances of landing his own very different offense

    "Coming Forward" is as vague as you can get in boxing. Morales (and Marquez, in spots) showed that educated pressure against Pacquiao works. If you have good fundamentals, proper footwork, and a responsible guard, then Pacquiao is not going to "destroy" you just because you don't go backwards. If you can find him on the inside, you can chop away without him having any other answer but a willingness to move away and restart in order to throw anything back.

    I'm not saying Pacquiao loses for sure, but you're making sweeping generalizations that don't apply when considering a Pacquiao victory.
     
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  7. Bill Butcher

    Bill Butcher Erik`El Terrible`Morales Full Member

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    Chavez is far superior to anyone Pac has ever fought, he is outright better than Marquez, obviously you have not seen enough/any of Chavez to think he is just an aggressive, pressure fighter, the fact that you say Pac could maybe TKO Chavez is beyond laughable, it proves beyond any doubt that your knowledge of Chavez is **** poor.

    Another couple of things, Chavez was at the end of his prime by the Whitaker fight & even if he wasn`t & lost to Whitaker, there`s something you should know, Whitaker is a better boxer than Pacquiao by some margin, different level completely.

    Any 140 lb version of Chavez from Roger Mayweather in 89 (were he 1st won the 140 lb title) to Hector Camacho in 92 would **** Pacquiao up... this ain`t Marquez we`re talking about here, its something far better.

    Chavez TKO10 Pacquiao
     
  8. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    @ 140 and above edge to Pac, 135 a slight edge to JCC.
     
  9. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Lmfao @ ******s here thinking this fight could go either way. :lol: Im not a Chavez Sr fan but good lord a prime Chavez Sr would murder Pacquiao at 140 pounds. Ppl talk about If Taylor could land soo many punches on Chavez that Pac could do the same? Have ppl here lost their memory? Taylor was winning the fight but he was ruined badly cause Chavez was killing him on the inside. You all think Pacquiao can handle Chavez Sr punches on the inside? :lol::lol::lol: And Whitaker imo beat Chavez would have clearly beat Pacquiao. Pacquiao is really really getting overrated by a mile.
     
  10. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Anyone who thinks this isnt a one sided or clear cut For a prime Chavez Sr is ******ed in my book.
     
  11. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    I think you giving Pacquiao too much of rounds that Chavez will stop him in. I'll give pacquiao atleast 5 or 6 rounds to stay on his feet. No way Pacquiao can handle chavez power punches for 10 rounds.
     
  12. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Well now you're going the complete other way and underrating Pacquiao's durability and mobility. Chavez has taken longer than 6 rounds to stop lesser fighters.
     
  13. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    The only way pac survive the 10th rounds of Chavez sr if he runs like khan.
     
  14. JMP

    JMP Champion Full Member

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    If Pac runs like Khan, he wins the fight because unlike Khan, he has an ATG left jab to fall back on. Pac reminds me a lot of Tommy Hearns, with some similarities to Larry Holmes as well.
     
  15. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    jc by ud, im giving a lot of credit to pacs chin. pac has a habit of jumping into exchanges when he gets hit, there is no other boxer i like better in that type of situation than jc. pac has trouble with skilled boxers willing to exchange with him like morales and marquez, they wont cover up and try to ride out his flurries. the relentless pressure and body work will put pac in a world he has shown to not be comfortable in.
     
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