Khan vs. Mosley - What do you think?

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Lazarus, Jan 24, 2012.


  1. abzmanc

    abzmanc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In all fairness instead of slating Khan for this ficticious/hypothetic match up, why not give him some credit at least for chasing the meaningful fight against Peterson. One I'm sure most would enjoy seeing a rematch of, certainly would over a Shane matchup.
     
  2. sg85

    sg85 Bang on the chan Full Member

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    Terrible fight for Mosley.

    I wish he'd just retire already, but saying that with the amount of $$$ he's paid/paying to his ex, i can him sticking around to be a well paid punching bag for 1-2 more years yet. Sad. :-(
     
  3. Jun Fan

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    Nobodys knocking Khan for chashing a rematch with Peterson, its the sleazy way hes went about looking for it, thats practically ensured he wont get it. He moans about the ref, trying to make out that Peterson cheated, trying to imply the judges were doing something dodgy, trying to make out Welsh and hatman were corrupt, and generally not accepting the fact that his poor performance on the inside, in a fight he was expected to easily win, where he had to resort to constant cheating, official complaint after official complaint to the WBA and IBF etc. His continual bitching in every available interview, and his complete arrogance trying to dictate where and when a rematch will be, and as a challenger, trying to make Peterson accept a 50/50 split (I thought it was customary for the Champion [Peterson] to get 60% of the cash?)...and as the challenger who holds none of the belts, he should not be attempting to dictate anything after this post fight behaviour, and be happy for the rematch (most people have to work back through the ranks to earn one, and he wasnt very forthcoming about giving a rematch to Barrera, Prescott, McCloskey, Maidana etc). It seems like he is completely unwilling to rematch Maidana, should Peterson vacate to win his WBA "title" back.
     
  4. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Comparing the Maidana, Prescott, McCloskey rematches, is pretty stupid, mate.

    Oh, and it's not customary for the champion/winner to always get the larger share. Not in today's boxing, anyway.
     
  5. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopefully, Peterson signs up for the rematch today
     
  6. Jun Fan

    Jun Fan Active Member Full Member

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    Im simply putting across the point that whilst bitching about Peterson not "honouring his word about a rematch"...Khan never gave anyone a rematch...not to avenge defeat, or when the outcome was controversial.

    If Khan or his team had even half a brain between them, they wouldnt be so demanding, when asking, for rematch...a 60/40 split in Petersons favour, would have had a much better chance of success, than demanding to dictate the terms, and "offering" a "generous" 50/50! Khan has no belts, and a swiftly dwindling following...beggers cant be choosers.
     
  7. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Again, it’s a stupid comparison, because the situations aren’t alike.

    And in what way have Khan’s team tried to "dictate the terms"? All they’ve done so far is made a 1.5 million offer (or however much it is). I've not been following the situation that closely, to be honest. So I may have missed something.

    And actually, anyone with half a brain would not immediately dive in with a 60/40 split offer in favour of Peterson. Team Peterson are in a position where they’ll be trying to claw more money than they usually would get. So their [Team Khan] idea is to propose an amount that would leave them room to concede a bit more, and still keep a reasonable amount for themselves. I mean, when you go to see a car that’s on for £2,000, and you have the intention of bargaining with the owner, you wouldn’t instantly blurt "Right, I’ll give you £2,000 for it!". You’ll probably offer £1,600, work your way up, and eventually settle on £1,800 or something.

    And it’s also worth reminding, Peterson does not warrant a 60-40 split. As mentioned, champions/winners aren’t always the rightful claimers to the bigger share. It’s all about being the name and draw nowadays. Did Mosley get more money than Oscar in the rematch? Or Margarito against Cotto? Rahman against Lewis? I doubt it. That's not how the business of boxing works.
     
  8. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    The belts mean nuttin' ;-)
     
  9. Go Getta

    Go Getta Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I know, but the green WBC looks the best .. ;)

    At the moment Khan does value the belts he lost, I guess it's a pride thing, he wants them back.
     
  10. Lazarus

    Lazarus Realist Full Member

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    Excellent post.
     
  11. Jun Fan

    Jun Fan Active Member Full Member

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    Peterson is a straight up and down type of guy, I think he'd already have signed the fight if Khan wasnt such a whiney **** about it, and if they offered him the customary 60/40 split. You say Peterson doesnt warrant a 60/40 split?...come on, youre sounding like one of Khans ******ed entourage or nuthuggers with that, and youre more intelligent than that/them, Peterson has 2 belts, Khan has none. Khans complaints to the WBA and IBF failed to "win" him the belts back outside the ring...he cant shadowbox for 12 rounds to get the 2 belts back...anyone with any sense would have put an offer in that Peterson isnt going to refuse, and whats been offered already obviuosly isnt enough to make them sign....and before any Khan fans say "thats the most hes ever been offered"...or "thats 5 times his usual purse" or "he'll never get a better deal than that"...Peterson was never a unified 2 belt champion before...Khan is the challenger, not the champ...irrespective of how many PPVs he might (or might not) sell if they negotiate and sucessed in getting Peterson to sign up for a rematch.

    Peterson has found himself with other potentially much more lucrative options at this point, (both financially and tougher fights that he'll learn more from as a boxer) and if I were him, I would seriously consider them before getting back to Khan...I'd personally demand a 70/30 split, (for Khans cheek) after Khans lies, insinuations and disrespect...if Khan doesnt like it he'd be told in no uncertain terms where to go (but thats just me!).
     
  12. WalletInspector

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    Rematch clause... :yep
     
  13. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don’t really care about who deserves what. I’m just stating facts. Despite holding two belts, Peterson’s name is still smaller. He’ll be back to earning 5-figure paydays as oppose to 7-figure ones if he picks anyone other than Khan (that’s assuming Pac, JMM, or maybe even Bradley, aren’t available). That’s the unfortunate truth. It’s because of this that your 60% (and now 70% :lol:) is unrealistic.

    And sure, Khan is being a whiney *****, but that isn’t the sole reason why Peterson has yet to accept the rematch. Neither is it their current offer. Because even if Khan did exactly what you’re asking him to do – remain humble and throw 60% their way – Peterson would still be holding out. Why? Because he’s had equal and better opportunities dangled in front of him (Pac, JMM or a Bradley rematch). He’s just waiting to see what’s possible, and pick the most beneficial fight for him. If that happens to be Khan’s 1.5 million (or whatever it is) because Pac, JMM or Bradley aren’t available, then it’ll be that. Because at the end of the day, money talks. Khan being disrespectful, classless, bla bla bla, won’t factor into Team Peterson’s decision making.
     
  14. abzmanc

    abzmanc Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It wouldn't change anyone's opinion on him! :deal
     
  15. Jun Fan

    Jun Fan Active Member Full Member

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    Peterson will do as he pleases, and he'd be foolish to accept a 50/50 offer (or the previous one that must have presumably been lower) when theres potentially bigger and better offers. Khan will have to realize the cold hard truth, he isnt the champion any more, and without the belts, he doesnt hold all the cards, he might have to fight for the low end of the purse, or fight someone else next, its as simple as that.