Did anybody else dominate all time greats the way

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  1. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pernell Whitaker did? If so, who beat more all time greats or borderline greats in as dominate a fashion as Pea
     
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  2. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Harry Greb, NO CONTEST.
    Gene Tunney
    Tommy Gibbons
    Jack Dillon
    Mike Gibbons
    Tommy Loughran
    Mickey Walker
    Kid Norfolk
    Maxie Rosenbloom
    Tiger Flowers
    Battling Levinsky
    Gunboat Smith
    Most of these HOF fighters outweighed the great Greb by many pounds, and for a great part of his astounding career, Greb did it the HARD way.
    With one peeper....
     
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  3. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Carlos Monzon made a lot of greats/ borderline greats look very ordinary.
     
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  4. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Jones -Hopkins/Toney
    Tyson-Spinks

    Except Greb didn't dominate the best of them


    But they were allot smaller and older
     
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  5. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes...and just for the record, Jose Napoles was picked by many experts to not only beat Monzon, but to outclass him. I remember the buildup to that fight and the coverage it got in the major boxing magazines back then.
     
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  6. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    PP ,why can't you give Harry Greb his due.?
    He beat all of them ,some many times. What fighter "dominated" [silly term],every bout he ever fought ? It's fine to be a contrarian, but a serious
    discussion is needed...Harry Greb for the ages.:happy
     
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  7. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Greb did beat them, no doubt, and some of them were all time greats. I think his name certainly deserves a mention and he could be in the running. However, as PP points out, did he dominate them the way Whitaker totally and completely won almost every round against all time greats or clearly outclassed them... Ramirez, Nelson, Chavez, Mcgirt, Vasquez, Brazier.. Nazario wasn't too bad either. I would also include.. a past his prime.. blown up lighweight on drugs IMO beating a prime Oscar. Did Greb beat the guys you named as soundly as Pea did the guys above?
     
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  8. tommygun711

    tommygun711 The Future Full Member

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    These two points contradict themselves. Spinks was a natural light heavy and wasn't primed for Tyson.
     
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  9. janitor

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    He certainly dominated Gene Tunney in their first encounter, and he has an argument for being the best of them.

    Come to think of it, he has at lest one dominant win over most of the top light heavyweights of his era.
     
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  10. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Jones

    Maybe Ezzard
     
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  11. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    He never beat a great middleweight.
     
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  12. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Jones... People think Jones dominated all time greats the same as Pea? I just don't see it that way myself....

    Janitor... would you say Greb dominated all time greats the same way Pea did?
     
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  13. Conn

    Conn Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Who are the all-time greats ?

    Chavez. was that a serious domination ?
    Nelson ?
    Ramirez ?

    When I look at the resume, I don't see much "ATG" jumping out at me.
     
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  14. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Ramirez, Mcgirt, Vasquez, Brazier or Nazario are not ATGs.
     
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  15. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don't think Chavez was a dominating performace? I guess we disagree there... I would add the tops names.. even if you don't consider them all time greats.. they are borderline greats, and or, very good fighters..... Vasquez, McGirt & Brazier
     
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