Did anybody else dominate all time greats the way

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  1. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don't think Ramirez is a all time or borderline great.. which is also what I mentioned... borderline or all-time or damn good fighters... which I think McGirt and Vasquez certainly fall into.
     
  2. TAC602

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    :huh
     
  3. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Yes, they are good or damn good fighters.
     
  4. KuRuPT

    KuRuPT Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well... maybe all time greats for some names was a bit too far.. which is why I further clarified with borderline greats or very good fighters.... which I think all the names i listed fall into those categories. Point is, he dominated all those guys, and in some cases, barely lost a round. So which fighter.. has as impressive list as his and dominated in the same way he did.... I can see Greb... who else?
     
  5. Conn

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    not many, i guess. Whitaker tended not to get hit, he outboxed his opponents so purely I can see what you're saying.

    Willie Pep was a similar sort of fighter. And there are some very good fighters on his win resume.

    Benny Leonard too. But we're going back years now.

    But maybe quick KO artists are disadvantaged in such a discussion. Overwhelming an opponent with power within 2 or 3 rounds is a form of domination too.
    Joe Louis did that to men like Baer, and Schmeling - very good fighters at least.
     
  6. janitor

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    On his best day yes.

    Then again, he could loose to a guy in the first encounter, and then in the rematch he might put on a Calzaghe Lacey style domination.

    Alternativley he might put on the Calzaghe Lacey domination in the first fight, then the other guy might figure out a strategy for coping with him, and win or put up a competitive loss.

    Perhaps the take home message, is that a domination does not mean that the looser can never win.
     
  7. lufcrazy

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    Without footage it's almost impossible to judge just how dominant greb was against his greatest rivals.

    The first against tunney is well reported and documented so we can fairly class that as a domination.

    Pea is the most talented fighter during my lifetime though. He's better than jones was imo.

    If there was a top whatever p4p of 87-97 his domination would look amazing.
     
  8. DonBoxer

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    Sit down.
     
  9. Vano-Irons

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    The first to come to my mind was Ezzard Charles.

    Charley Burley twice, Moore 3 times, Bivins 4 out of 5 (or was it 3 out of 4?), Lloyd Marshall, Joey Maxim, Elmer Ray, Joe Baski, Yarosz, Jersey Joe and a very very old Joe Louis (the majority of these he had numerous wins over).
     
  10. Lester1583

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    Not all of these wins were dominating though and not all fighters were ATGs.
     
  11. Vano-Irons

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    I think it's a hard stretch to find anyone that can dominate the calibre of fighters Charles beat. While Whitaker may have looked far more impressive, Charles beat the better fighters IMO.

    Two UDs over burley, 2 decisions over Moore to go alongside a KO win, dominating an old Louis, as well as scoring wide decisions and KOs over Bivins, Marshall, Maxim, Elmer Ray, Baski and Jersey Joe. That's good enough for me
     
  12. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Agree.