Bute fans;Do you TRULY believe your guy can beat Ward?If so,why and how?

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  1. watcher

    watcher Active Member Full Member

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    Yup.
     
  2. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    I would have loved to see Bute-Kessler in November, trust me. That was the A opponent I wanted him to get.

    On the prospect thing, and it got mentioned before I believe, you must also not forget that Bute was green compared to his current skillset when he fought Bika in 2007. The same Bika that had gotten a shot at Joe. Ward fought him recently and lost 3, arguably 4 rounds.
     
  3. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree, Pity the Fool will tell you that I'm a Froch fan (Even though I called the Ward match :-() and I think that Bute stops him if they fight.

    Froch's prime was the Super Six tournament, he'd retained his physical gifts into his early to mid 30's and had reached his peak in terms of Ring IQ. I think he put everything into the Super Six, and now that it's over, he won't reach that level again. The only reason I pick Bute to stop Froch is his body punching, Froch has an ATG chin, so what do you do? Knock the hell out of the 34(?) year old body.

    As for Andre Ward, he said on Fightcamp : 'My ultimate goal is to become a master of this sport, to the point where I can control my opponent effortlessly.' Hell of a goal, and I think he'll get there.
     
  4. Dipset

    Dipset Dipset4Ever Full Member

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    I disagree Bute fought Miranda in his 26th fight as a pro, Ward fought him in his 12th, Ward was a prospect when he beat him.
     
  5. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :dealI think that's how the majority of non-Bute fans feel.
     
  6. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    :yep
     
  7. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Indeed you did SJS,and my prediction was based more on hope(I did make that clear! Give me something here!:yep)
    But I will never,ever admit that I think Bute will stop Froch (I bloody well don't either!)
    Anyone with a modicum of boxing knowledge knows Froch stops Bute inside a round.Or two if the fight's in Montreal.:bart
     
  8. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    Bute will decision Froch anywhere in the world, I see Bute's KO percentage decreasing as he moves up in competition as Froch's did, but still containing enough pop in his shots
     
  9. gunmike1

    gunmike1 Member Full Member

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    I'm not trying to say because Ward beat the guys he beat he automatically beats Bute. What I'm saying is that Ward has shown very diverse skills in beating a wide variety of fighters, some better than Bute has faced. You are right in that all that will matter in a Ward/Bute fight is how their skills match up. I'm of the opinion that Ward's diverse skills along with his boxing IQ and toughness will be enough to nullify a lot of what Bute does and get him the decision. Bute will be a good test because Ward hasn't fought anyone with his skills and style, and Bute will have his moments, but Ward takes this one IMO.
     
  10. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    One thing that will work in Bute's favor is that he has one of the best uppercuts in the game, and Ward does like to get low and stays in range of that sort of shot.

    But overall I think Ward can smother Bute and take away his uppercut with good positioning, and will win the fight.
     
  11. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    futu-ti grijania matii de troll , ce-ti mai place sa sugi pula si sa bagi strambe si fitile , intrigantu-le care esti. Lua-me-ai penelu' in cutia limbii de gaozar . O fut pe mata pana o stric , de nu o sa mai stie cum te cheama :deal:hi::yep:hey
     
  12. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If you don't have the balls to answer in English,then give yourself a rest.
    You know I'd destroy you but you don't have the balls to take me on in a common language.You're probably one of those that likes to tie the rent boys(and pigs,of course) up so they can't resist or fight back.
    Like I said,Pervert/snitch/coward.
     
  13. Dipset

    Dipset Dipset4Ever Full Member

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    ...?
     
  14. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Typical of the idiotic branch of Bute fans who say anyone who doesn't agree with them is a troll.How original.:patsch
    The type who are too cowardly to even debate in a shared language because they only like fights were the opponent can't fight back.
    All this from a guy/pervert/snitch/coward who can't stop talking about cocks.:deal
     
  15. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Hmmm?

    You said Ward was green when he fought Miranda, to justify the few rounds he lost. I said Bute was green when he fought Bika and that Ward still lost as many rounds as Bute did back then, where as Bute smoked Miranda (compared to a 12 round brawl in the pocket for Ward-Miranda).