Bute fans;Do you TRULY believe your guy can beat Ward?If so,why and how?

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  1. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    Yes you did , you ****** and stop trolling about Bute , u 12 years old ****ing hater ; ...... and about your wife or your girlfriend ( if you have something like that u fcking 12 years old moron ) ...... only doggy style I would prefer to do with them , and fck them between their boobs:deal:hey

    u ****ing kid , go to the bed and take a nap :deal
     
  2. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think this is as close to a 50/50 fight as there is. Bute clearly has excellent power and Ward almost got put away by a far lesser fighter with power in Boone so you can bet that Bute's got the ability to hurt Ward and the speed and skill to tag him more than he's ever been hit before. On the other hand, Ward is the master adapter of the division, he's got that ability like Hopkins and Mayweather to change his gameplan mid round and Hunter will have a great A, B and C plan set up for Bute. Bute is also very good at adapting mid fight but not at Wards level. Will Ward be able to make Bute respect him though with no pop in his punches? Ward will be the aggressor in this fight and that plays into Luciens favor, my guess is Ward will be able to mostly neutralize Butes big left but Butes got a nice hook as well that will be his most effective punch vs Ward imo. Bute is just as fast or faster than Ward so it's gonna be nothing like slow ass Froch vs Ward. Bute by late stoppage or Ward by close UD after losing early and turning it up in the late rounds as his superior stamina overwhelms Bute. IMO it breaks down like this:

    Speed- just about equal, slight handspeed advantage for Bute and slight footspeed advantage for Ward

    Power- Not even close ...Bute by a country mile

    Strength- Ward is the physically stronger fighter

    Stamina- Ward has better stamina but Butes improved and seems pretty damn fit too.

    Chin- both guys have question marks surrounding their chins but it's not going to matter in Bute's case since Ward hits like a lightweight.

    Adaptability- both are very good at this but Ward's the best in the game besides Mayweather and B-Hop.

    Another thing is both of these guys mix up their punches beatifully and throw just about every punch int he book.

    X Factor- Bute's left....if he can connect might send Ward to Lala land, Bute's also a great finisher, one of the best int he game and if he had Ward reeling like Boone did than it'll be goodnight for Andre.
     
  3. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I also said it would be Ward's toughest fight and would be far from easy.
     
  4. Dipset

    Dipset Dipset4Ever Full Member

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    Thank you, or though we may not agree on certain subjects, I truly respect your perspective on the Bute vs Ward. Any person with a logical argument and not pure bias is truly a brother of the boxing fraturnity.

    I wish more people on the site would discuss things like we have and not get into personal insults, oh well.

    Great post.
     
  5. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah,brought you out your hole didn't I
    You're still saying you'd like to **** my wife!!!
    ****ing unbelievable.You started this.I made a perfectly valid point and you turned your foul mouth(fingers) away from Magic and onto me.
    I told you earlier to leave me alone but you chased every ****ing post I made whether it was about you or (as was mostly the case) not.
    Try thinking before you start writing about ****ing people's wives and families.:hi: :deal
    And how the **** am I trolling about Bute??Because I dare to suggest Ward could win?
    There are many Bute fans who know I'm no troll and no I certainly don't hate him,far from it.
    Get it right.Not having a great day,are you?
     
  6. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I rate Bute (on what I've seen) highly but after the S6 final,I realised Ward had more than I thought.I know this would be a different fight,and I don't see Ward dominating,I just think he has the strength and ability to nullify and counter any gameplan of anyone at SMW right now.
    This would NOT be a walkover.By any means.
     
  7. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    Oricum imi bag pula in mata din nou si din nou, pana o sa se invete minte sa numai ceara pula.
    Uscami-ash chilotii pe crucea matii de cacat spurcat. Itzi prind eu pula in unghiera ! Date-ash cu dintii de robinet !
    Sprijinime-ash pula de buzele lu mata aia cu herpesuri la gura de la atata belengher !
    Spalate-ash cu cacat de sobolan pe dinti , in pizda matii de copchil ****** care are si el calculator si goagle !:hey:yep:hi::deal
     
  8. flashy k.o

    flashy k.o Supporter of E.E fighters Full Member

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    Pishate-ai sange sa te pisi , cu usturimi ! Sa te doara rau maseaua in noaptea de craciun si de revelion ! :deal:D
     
  9. makavel

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  10. makavel

    makavel Active Member Full Member

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    Te-ai pus rau pe asta , a? :lol:
     
  11. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Try debating with matters related to boxing instead of you vile nonsense.
    Talking about people's wives and families,using words like "******" and calling people who disagree with you "trolls" really show the level you're working at.
    What's up,have you dried your tears?:|
    This is a BOXING forum,not a racist teenage porn site.Take your vile nonsense elsewhere and leave me the **** alone.Understand why Magic felt the need to report you,you really are a vile beast.
    Not my style though,write about ****ing my wife n kids and I'll just face you head on.:deal:hi:
     
  12. TheRat

    TheRat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bute will beat Ward because Ward never faced a caucasian Canadian style fighter before.
     
  13. drozzy

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    Good post RTB.


    Speed- I actually give an edge to Ward in handspeed as well as (footwork / overall body movement)

    Power- Agreed

    Strength- Yes. That's why range will be key in Bute's gameplan. Can't box and fight his fight if he's got Ward's forehead on his chest all night.

    Stamina- Did you see how Bute turned it up in rounds 9-10-11-12 of the Johnson fight? Good sign right there. He had been moving pretty well defensively prior to R9.

    Chin- Can't wait to see if Bute can land a big left to Ward's chin or even body, especially with Ward coming in aggressively.

    Adaptability- Agreed. I bet he'll be shooting for a fight in the pocket, right from the get go. Bute's reach is 72", he did take jabs but overall worked well around Johnson's reach of 75", where as Ward's is listed at 71".
     
  14. JASPER

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    I am a fan of Bute and I hate Ward for his SOG BS. However, Ward looked almost PBF like against Froch. However, Froch was/is an overachiever and had done extremely well with his limited talent and skill up to that point. So yes he looked great against a B- fighter but in Bute you have a whole other kettle of fish.

    While I think Ward my be more skilled than Bute, Bute has more power. Ward can fight on the inside and outside, so can bute. I think work to the body can be the defining difference.

    Bute and the uber talented Dirrel are the biggest threat to Ward reign at 168. while I would have Ward a slight fav over bute and a little wider margin over dirrel, he is not unbeatable
     
  15. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again,a good balanced and well thought out post.Disagree about Froch though.:good
    I think Dirrell's one of those guys who,on the right night,could beat anyone,but I think he lacks cold,hard mental strength.For me,Bute is the biggest threat to Ward by some distance.