Historically, why doesn't Rocky Marciano get his just dues?

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Ripshitty strikes again :lol:

    I have Marciano between 8-10. Just outside of top ten is fair IMO. Certainly not breaking into the top 5 IMO.
     
    Flea Man, Jan 30, 2012
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  2. MadcapMaxie

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    Lets see your list?
     
    MadcapMaxie, Jan 30, 2012
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  3. Bummy Davis

    Bummy Davis Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ha Ha He Grant opens his mouth and can not back up with facts, he is one of the biased ones who wear rose colored glasses when its time to criticize Holmes but takes out the magnifier glasses when trying to find a speck on Rocky's resume

    You nailed him JT
     
    Bummy Davis, Jan 30, 2012
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  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    1. Ali
    2. Louis
    3. Lennox
    4. Foreman
    5. Evander
    6. Tyson
    7. Holmes
    8. Frazier
    9. Marciano
    10. Liston

    1&2: any order
    3-5; any order.
    6-9; any order
    10; one of about five guys could reasonably go there. I used to have Larry much higher, but I think he's overrated nowadays so I'm putting him further down, questions, at this point, not welcome.
     
    Flea Man, Jan 30, 2012
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  5. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    That's a good list, Flea Man.
     
    Lester1583, Jan 30, 2012
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  6. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    my only question with marciano against much larger, quality, opponents is his chin. obviously it was great but could he last long enough to do his stuff against the best big guys?
     
    kingfisher3, Jan 30, 2012
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    :good
     
    TAC602, Jan 30, 2012
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  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Mine is provisionally:

    Louis
    Ali
    Johnson
    Holmes
    Foreman
    Frazier
    Lewis
    Tyson
    Marciano
    Holyfield
     
    lufcrazy, Jan 30, 2012
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  9. Ramon Rojo

    Ramon Rojo Active Member Full Member

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    Both Arreola and Peter would KO Marciano.


    Size matters when size difference is so huge.
     
    Ramon Rojo, Jan 30, 2012
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  10. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love Rocky, but having boxed at a pretty darn high level, I can attest to this.

    I'm not saying Peter and Cris would KO Rock, because both guys are pretty soft and weak in the head(Bad things to be against Marciano), but the great little guy very rarely beats a great huge guy when that huge guy knows how to fight huge.

    I'm a massive human being, I've boxed 175ers and cruisers that are world ranked, and one who was a champion at the time, and I well and truly beat them up. My punches hurt, theirs stung. I moved them where I wanted. They always had to give ground in exchanges. When we tied up, I was the boss. Things like that are more significant than most think they are. I never ended up ****, but my size has bailed me out of plenty of situations. It writes AND cashes checks my skills and mediocre speed would bounce.
     
    MagnaNasakki, Jan 30, 2012
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  11. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Bummy, you rate Marciano at 3 all time and call my glasses rose colored ? Be serious ... you're the al time Rocky nuthugger ... Number 3 ... it's so funny you cannot even be taken seriously ..
     
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  12. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But Peter and Cris are not great. I think Marciano beats em.
     
    Dempsey1238, Jan 30, 2012
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  13. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Peter quits, Cris gasses, then quits are gets wrecked.

    We are in agreement.

    One thing Marciano would never do, is quit or gas. You better be ready to take him to the woodshed for 12-15 entire rounds.
     
    MagnaNasakki, Jan 30, 2012
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  14. MrMagic

    MrMagic Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know fighters from the past have a mythical aura about them, but I genuinely think 184lbs Rocky Marciano would mincemeat any of the mentioned jokes.
     
    MrMagic, Jan 30, 2012
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  15. bremen

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    You seriously believe 185lb Marciano could outbrawl Peter and Arreola? Not outbox but outbrawl them?
     
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