Do you consider Canelo Alvarez a prospect?

what happens when pac bradley is at 147? your, "beat people in his division" lame ass arguement won't mean **** (as if it already does)

 

Look little kid, I'll wait to at least SEE what weight they fight at before making a fuss over something like that, drama queen. I don't like it at 147 if that's what they decide, but at least both guys are closer in weight then Floyd and canelo are in skill level and experience. Besides, did you complain about Floyd vs,. hatton at 147? :roll:

Go **** yourself child, all you are trying to do is start **** over nothing. You just crave drama... atsch

 

No, I consider him an amateurspect.

 

He def fights like a prospect. He's got some talent and a decent overall skillset but a lot to learn still and he's simply nowhere near the level to compete with Floyd or Pacquiao at this point.

 

:huh


people only say **** like this when they are trying to convince others that they are not a child



and actually...i was far from thrilled with hatton, as i don't classify him anywhere close to floyd's level, no matter the weight

 

I called you that because you seem to have decided we were at war. I care less if you need an adversary right now. :roll: Or do you think you need to start some fake beef with me?

Anyway....:roll:

 

There is no way he is a prospect. By a prospects' standards, I will letter grade after each of what I feel are his best wins.

Miguel Vazquez X2: I have not seen these so I can only judge what I see on paper, a 4 round SD win in Alvarez's third fight and a later 10 round UD win in the re-match, the weight was a big deal, but nonetheless a good future titlist (C-, B)

Carlos Baldomir: former lineal welterweight champ who was deemed to have an iron chin, quite old and past prime though (B+)

Lovemore Ndou: prepares for his title shot by taking on Ndou, a classic well known journeyman (C+)

Matthew Hatton: a few pounds above Hatton's weight with unexpected weight problems, the title was gift wrapped and double bowed for Alvarez, who beat Hatton for every minute of every round but could never hurt him (B-)

Ryan Rhodes: RING #4 at junior middle, this is a victory which legitimizes Alvarez's being one of the four titlists. Impressive domination. (A+)

Alfonso Gomez: scored an early KD, struggled a bit and lost a couple rounds, ultimately to unload seemingly at will to force an early stoppage (B)

Kermit Cintron: Cintron was just one fight removed from being the RING #2 at junior middle, Alvarez as predicted battered Cintron before another early stoppage (A-)

We are talking about a prospect here. Alvarez has long since been beyond that state. The time which he "graduated" would be after the Ndou win, the end of 2010, which he was near the consensus Prospect of the Year. At the latest, the Rhodes win COMBINED with his body of work before that would be the point where even if it was your agenda against, you would sit back and say, "yeah, not a prospect anymore."

 

Good write up. Canelo should be looking at other top guys in his division. Guys like Bundrage, Powell, Spinks, Molina/kirkland winner, d. rogriguez, or even guys like Lara or Austin Trout before trying to graduate to Cotto or Mayweather for a huge fight.

 

I agree with you. Good list actually, I like. Add Mundine and Angulo, and I think you've got the entire spectrum of guys that are worthy based on resume and make business/managerial/legacy sense. However, I believe that he beats all of those guys easy with the exception of Lara and maybe Kirkland or Trout. I think he beats Cotto H2H too, but that's irrelevant. In terms of merit, he deserves a big shot over any of the other guys you listed, which are the guys that Cotto should also be fighting at 154. Thus, my reasoning would be that Mayweather's two best options in terms of legacy at 154, which would be his two best options other than Pacquiao, are Cotto and Alvarez.

 

No, he's not a prospect anymore. He is just being brought along slowly, and building up a resume of "names". Which is why I find it hard to believe GoldenBoy will throw him in with Mayweather so early.

 

You sound like a ***.

 

he's a prospect, and good enough to cause an upset. not likely, but possible.

 

The ginger has 40+ fights and a belt, he ain't a prospect, but a "champion"