>>> Mayweather-Pacquiao, who ducked who this time? <<<

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They both were to blame but if I have to pick one then I'd say PAC. Arum never wanted to make the fight and that was obvious to everyone but the *******s.

 

Not debating it bro, I'm telling you-Arum having control over Pacquiao is Pacquiao's own problem,within his team.

Arum said he would do as Pacquiao wanted-He didn't or he did....From what I saw in negotiations in articles etc...Pac was callin for it and Arum advised Pac that if he wanted "someone else and not one of the names mentioned" then he would accept that.

I'm tellin u, on paper, legally, Arum represents Pacquiao and therefore what he says represents Manny Pacquiao's official stance-wether Pac likes it or not is a different debate all together..but legally Arum represents Manny Pacquiao in any matter related to him fighting in boxing (and probably MMA if it came down to it-See Mayorga King beef).:deal

Good rebuttal though:goodBut legally speaking, he does rep em, and is part of Team Pacquiao, and their official stance.

 

The purse was not the main issue. Arum wanted the date moved, he wanted a stadium built. It's EASY to look at the purse and blame Mayweather...but official negotiations would not take place, Arum made sure of that (the fact that Mayweather and Pacquiao spoke is evidence of that). It was either be unrealistic and delay the bout for the stadium, or wait until November.

Arum ****ed it up, pretty clear to see.

 

Team Pacquiao..yea they did fuk it up.

 

i disagree. date can be settled more easily. reports have said that pac is ok with the date. but the purse is now a permanent obstacle.

so how do you think after the cotto fight would they reconcile this purse disagreement? should pac bend again to floyd's will just to make this fight happen? pac has conceded more since from the beginning.

 

His answer straight after the Marquez fight was that he would leave it with his promoter while Bob was shouting for a 4th Marquez fight.

Since then we've had their camp coming out with one excuse after the other, from not knowing who to talk to, how his cut won't have healed by May 5th to needing to build a new venue, in fact he couldn't make May 5th until he thought Mayweather was going to jail and then it would have been okay for a Marquez fight, then when Mayweather got his sentence put back they couldn't make it again.

The 50/50 is something the *******'s will hold on to for dear life to make out their man didn't duck, however their was no attempt to negotiate an agreement because Bob Arum wouldn't even answer the phone to Richard Schaefer.

Pacquiao ducked, you *******'s will have to live with that.

 

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Pac will just have to take the lesser share as he said he would-as you have seen with the drug tests and the lawsuit and the date/venue, Floyd will only fight Pac on his terms...Pac will have to agree to a lesser split, plus the rest and then the fight can be made...

That is what has to happen, to answer your question..when you avg. more buys (240k OFFICIAL) then u have more power on your side of the negotiations.

Your not seeing that cuz u choose not to Pugi-You don't like it cuz it puts your boi in the wrong-which he was, and u don't wanna accept that. Thats what is goin on here:deal

 

Other forums have Pacquiao much further behind than this.

 

Rumors also sayin Pac himself, only getting a guarantee of 10 milion for this fight.

Pac's fault-Cotto will probably make more for fighting Floyd than Pac will make for fighting Bradley.

 

floyd averaged more buys because of the oscar fight which happened 5/6 years ago where floyd is not the A-side. without that, their average is pretty close. also recently, pac has been getting the bigger PPV buys and live gates than floyd. if ever, it should be pac demanding the bigger split, but since he wants to make the fight, he is ok with the 50/50 split which is very fair.

floyd meanwhile tried to low-ball pacquiao unto accepting a $40M offer, when this fight could generate much more for the two of them. if floyd thinks $40M is big, he should have accepted the $45M counter-offer if he thinks 50/50 is not fair.

 

You're clearly missing the point. Pacquiao is fine with the date, ARUM IS NOT. He would not start negotiations with Mayweather or GB.

Like I said, Mayweather and Pacquiao wanted the fight, ARUM DID NOT.

 

well it's also rumored that floyd would be fighitng martinez at 154 but chose cotto instead. lesson: rumor is just that until it's confirmed.

 

doesn't matter bro-doesn't matter that it was 5 years ago-not 6..that is not even relevant:deal to the debate

The fact is that Floyd averages more buys and those are the numbers looked at- A COMMON FACTOR (OSCAR FIGHT FOR EACH MAN), using those numbers-

You can't just say "Oh its cuz of one fight"...don't matter..it is what it is.

Negative on your counter-Floyd averages more buys (Oscar fight or not he averages more buys-check your numbers)...but FACT IS we do have the Oscar fight to include:deal

Again, Floyd can make 40-50 fighting just about anyone-Pac can only make 40 million fighting Floyd-maybe now u can see what I'm sayin? Pac can't make that kind of money fighting anyone like Floyd can.

Pac said he'd take less too.

Good rebuttal Pugi, but I owned ya in my own response.:good