Bute: Ward if you won't fight me than who will you fight ?

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  1. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Dirrell got nothing that will justify a fight in US than and that earn him a fight there.

    1 Bute is the draw, he will probably be the one that brings more ppl in the Arena even if it's in Dirrell's hometown.
    2 Bute is the champion, he's the one who ads shine to the fight by putting a belt on the line.
    3 Bute is the guy that generates more PPV and TV-rights money, Canada and World wide for sure in Us they might be even.
    4 Bute is also the more establish SMW, he's been in 10 title fights winning 8 of them by Ko, he's been top3 SMW for 5 years, he's been #1 SMW in The Rings and Boxrec rankings, etc.
     
  2. BatTheMan

    BatTheMan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The point was that Bute wasn't ducking Dirrell like the plague. Rather it's the other way around.
     
  3. Icanteach2005

    Icanteach2005 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thank you for explaining it in a way even the most Bute Dunk fans can understand it..:thumbsup


    Fail... Real recognize real.. and real people know Ward is humble, lives by example, also is human and not perfect.. does not force GOD or anything else down peoples throat.. Yes his nickname is SOG but real people know all men are GOD's children.. Some of you folks write mess cause your to scare to say it away from a message board... :bart
     
  4. makavel

    makavel Active Member Full Member

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    Sick and tired of this threads:-( Make a fight already and let's hope is not against a journeyman.
     
  5. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    The point is I would rather see Bute - Kessler / Bute - Froch more than him fighting Dirrell. But if it's nothing else left he should do the first step and be more willing to compromise on certain things, but to move it to Michigan or something else were they can make half the money they made in Montreal is not smart and I understand him for not wanting that. You can expect to push the guy that holds all the cards into accepting your strange conditions you need to negotiate.
     
  6. BeastsideBoxing

    BeastsideBoxing "The Thrill" Gavril Full Member

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    Bute needs a name for his next fight or his own fans will start hate the fact that he ain't giving us a good fight. He needs Froch or Dirrell and in worst case scenario Pavlik or Tony Dirrell.
     
  7. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bute/Dirrell only makes financial sense in Canada. The whole "if it don't make dollars...."
     
  8. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not surprised Bailey likes a 168 pound white guy who has only fought limited competition at home.
     
  9. BatTheMan

    BatTheMan Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dirrell is acting foolish. This particular fight not getting made, is not Bute's fault. But when talking about Froch, Kessler and Ward we are talking another ballgame and another level of fighters. Sooner or later Bute has got to make consessions to make those fights happen. He needs to understand that those guys does not need Bute but Bute needs them.

    Maybe after he demolishes another clubfigher in Canada in the scheduled April lovefest he'll realize that. And maybe then his nuthugging fans will realize that the blame for those fights not happening is not the fault of anyone else but Bute.
     
  10. Icanteach2005

    Icanteach2005 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah he got Shafted in Noghtinghamn but it iwas his own doing.. (Yes I still thinks he wins on the cards)

    Dirrell could use the exposure and it puts him back in the disscussion.. its a risk but one that he needs to take if he wants to be mentioned with these Good to Great Crop of fighters (Ward, Bute,Froch, Kessler) most of these guys are on thier way out.. Kessler is getting older and not any better, Froch is close to his mid 30's Bute the same.. Ward is poised to get all the belts and then move up possible..) so if Dirrell sit back and fights Bute current level of opponents for a while he would be looking to opt to be the guy after Ward moves up..

    By the Way to those out there knocking Dirrell.. His resume is better than Bute Even with the loss..

    its not by much.. but it rate Higher than Bute...
     
  11. Icanteach2005

    Icanteach2005 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I may not agree with you much.. but this much is very true...:deal
     
  12. jeffjoiner

    jeffjoiner Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beastside seems to be a more level headed Bute fan than a lot of other posters. Even as a huge Ward fan, I often see good insight into his posts.

    On this point he is 100% right. If either Dirrell faces Bute, it should be in Canada.
     
  13. Icanteach2005

    Icanteach2005 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Whats Strange is I would like to see Bute in there with Tony Dirrell rather than any other oppoent besides Ward or Hopkins/Pascal/Dawson..

    I get Differnt vibes from him.. He has Heart and killer instinc.. A very good challenge for Bute I think.. I think Bute comes thru.. but we will learm more about Bute in this fight..
     
  14. makavel

    makavel Active Member Full Member

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    A DQ over Abraham si better than everything Bute has fought?:patsch
     
  15. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Honestly? :huh

    I'd be curious to see a breakdown of their respective 5 top wins, might tell me where you're coming from.