So what is the deal with Manny really?

lmfao-ur way off

Pac made the "next excuse" and that "excuse" was JMM 4 AND THEN COTTO 2..

LMFAO AT *******S WHO DON'T ACCEPT THAT-

"I'M WILLING TO TAKE A LESSER SHARE TO MAKE THE FIGHT WITH MAYWEATHER"

MANNY "PACMAN" PACQUIAO

So easy to own this guys argument-just too easy:rofl:rofl

 

business wise = floyd :hat
legacy wise = pac :bbb

 

n ur the only one who thinks he ducked Winky-try posting with a pollrofl

u also forget they were seperated by 2 weight classes-..that isn't a "duck" dodong..

ur a fukin ***** on this forum who sucks mannies **** and can't get his cum off ur fukin face-

face it bro-pac ducked floyd this time around and the majority of fans (casual and hardcore) put the blame on Pac...u can't change that lil buddy:deal

ur like 0-945 with me bro-just give it up...u lost when Pac got his ass beat by JMM or at least looked horrible in the fight-thats when u lost buddy...u also lost when pac agreed to the tests

I'll bet u, in the end, IF/WHEN they do fight, that Pac doesn't get a 50/50?

30 day ban bet, that IF/WHEN Pac and Mayweather fight, Pac will get less than a 50/50 split?

As for following "pattern"...this is the same pattern he used when he said no to the drug testing...Pac will hold out for a while but eventually give in on the money too..then what will u say????:rofl:rofl:deal

 

the legacy argument is different all together-but in THIS argument legacy is not relevant-

When negotiating, they aren't going to use "legacy" from any standpoint.

 

but you agree that pac ranks higher than your pretty boy?
he can earn all the money he want but he can't be ranked higher that pac :hey

*****s think that pac refused 40m to fight floyd, w/c is more money than he ever got from any fight. But it works both ways, floyd refused 50/50, which is more money than he will ever get from any other fight.

 

I think Pac knows what Arum is doing but I also think he allows Arum to handle that side of his boxing career since Arum has been doing it for a long time. One thing people need to understand as well is how can anyone expect Pac to question Arum now considering how far Arum has brought Pac?

 

Sorry man.

I wanted to think this was Arum, but looking back? Pac has been pulling this crap his whole career. He knows the opponent he does well with and ALWAYS picks them.

He fears Mayweather with all of his heart. Arum gives him an out, but this is all Pac.

 

What a stupid statement, you cant get a resume like that when you are a coward, if he wasnt outshining floyd and was just fighting 3 divisions below him with no *******s acting like he is godlike he would be loved like Morales by 90% of the floyd fans who hate him now.

 

wat

 

Did I say that you moron? He obviously is not a coward.

How about you stick to what I said you idiot. Pac fears Mayweather and the embarrassment of fighting a skilled Pure Boxer. He knows he will look amatuerish and loose horribly. He is probably more willing to accept being knocked out in a brawl than that.

You would understand the difference between being a coward and being afraid of a certain person's style if you actually knew something about Boxing. Alas, YDKSAB... Like most Pac fans.

 

rofl pacfags hanging onto their last thread of dignity

all they have left after getting schooled by a 40 year old lightweight is the fantasy of emmanuel not doing his own ducking

 

Why do you need to get mad about it though? trolling ***** mind cant handle a normal discussion?
He wouldnt have fought marquez again if he was affraid of facing a style he couldnt handle.
Regardless who you blame for the fight not happening its logical that he doesnt fear floyd.
I think Arum does fear floyd schooling pac, that seems obvious but pac fights whoever they put in front of him.

 

let's just forget about the whole who ducked who argument for a second and look at this from a different perspective....

no one in boxing gets to the top without careful, selective thought process and matchmaking. sure a good fighter is the key in it all...but every style is beatable. this whole notion that either guy is invincible is ridiculous. i can point to several fighters who weren't as popular but would have given either guy a run for his money and more than likely beat him. what pac and mayweather are both the product of is great decision making. pac has stumbled plenty of times in his career. those are huge financial set backs in boxing. u have to get to the back of the line in most cases and start all over. it's not that way in other professional sports. in boxing...u live and die by winning/losing. it is in a fighters' best interest to sit back and let experienced qualified ppl make decisions for them and not give into the headlines or trash talk from possible opponents. guys like arum, bruce trampler, freddie roach, roger mayweather and floyd sr have been around boxing long enough to figure out the best route to take. it's all about calculated risks. timing, weight, contract stipulations....they all play a part in tilting things one way or the other. sure, sometimes they back fire. i thought pac lost his last fight 8-4 against marquez...but i'm sure he's thanking god for incompetent/possibly corrupt judges. once in a while a fighter comes along who is capable of taking matters into his own hands. they do that for a while...but unless they smarten up...it's almost impossible to keep it going for a long period of time. boxing has been around for quite some time. it's part science, part art. there's no one set formula to get to the top...but staying there is a science. think of all the successful fighters we've had over the years. they have all benefitted from careful matchmaking.

 

Mad? You called me "stupid" then proceeded to rant on some BS I didn't say. You are a moron and "mad" because I called you on it.

No. He thought he had the advantage with his "supplements" and weight but got schooled. Now he is certain he will be schooled.

The only thing I see as "logical" for this man to let all of this go on is FEAR or IGNORANCE? What are you picking? It is obviously one.

 

JMM's performance is getting completly blown out of proportion. What the **** is up with that? People have started to see phantom counters landing, or what?