Floyd fan logic: @ 154, Cotto is no longer a shot fighter...

That's just the game you guys play. You can't just say "Either blah blah..." because there's different circumstances for ALL fighters. They aren't equal, yet ALL too often the arguments are played out as they were.

But since you say, Cotto being better at 154 is supposedly based on what exactly? There was no talk of him struggling to make 147. So just saying 154 is better means nothing. ANd there was nothing to suggest making 145 drained him. He didn't fight like or look like a drained fighter at all.

But what is true is he's suffered two brutal defeats (three if one wants to count Clottey, as sadly many Floyd fans have said). SO him being better at 154, based on who's he's fought, is nothing more then a guess. Cotto was beaten out of 147 by two top guys and had a title shot lined up 7 pounds north vs. a beatable opponent. He would have been a fool to not take that fight. And it's pretty obvious he's small at 154 compared to his peers there.

As for Hatton, he simply was NOT as effective at 147 as he was at 140. Even you should be able to see that. And it's not like he was beaten badly by Floyd, he didn't get his ass kicked because that's just not Floyd's style. So it's hard to believe ANYONE who says HAtton was ruined by Floyd, or he was some form of leftover. Hatton's fighting style, and especially life stylem makes for a shortened career.

NOw I'm sure you will look at those and try to claim bias, as many have done. But not all things are equal. There's no 'formula' to apply to these guys after a KO loss. All fighters are different. ANd trying to make some comparison where one has to equal the other is a horrible way to talk about a fight.

 

oh don't worry, I have seen Lance mulitple times mention how Hatton was undefeated at 140 and how Pac fought the better version

 

Fans based polls mean VERY little to be honest. If he's looked at as #1, and Alvarez atr #2, both of whom have a very thin resumes at 154, that should tell you something. It's a popularity poll.

 

I'm gonna have to agree with this one. *****s discredit the **** out of Pac for beating Cotto. Yea it was at 145, but one of the main reasons why they discredit him is b/c of the brutal beating Cotto took from Margarito. Initially Cotto was damaged goods after the Marg beating, but apparently now he's not, lol. If *****s think Cotto is a good opponent for Floyd, they must give full credit to Pac for facing Cotto.


Edit: and it's also funny how Floyd always talked smack about "leftovers." Then bam, Floyd took a fight with the definition of a leftover - a fighter who took a brutal ass one sided raping from Pacquiao.

 

You can't take 5 quotes from 5 ppl and apply it to every single Mayweather fan. You also care way to much about "*****s".

 

Cotto is shot, even worse than when Pac fought him but stylistically and size wise he presents a bigger problem to Mayweather than he did to Pac (kinda like JMM preseted a way bigger style challenge to Pac than he did vs PBF). Either way we know Cotto runs when the going gets tought and I expect him to do the same against Mayweather. PS: Caneman, shut up you ******, your the ***** ass who was claiming Mayweather was ducking Cotto to fight Canelo, now the fight gets signed and you try to discredit Cotto. You're a pathetic little hypocritial *****.

 

Cotto at 154 with no catchweight is a better opponent than a feather fisted tim bradley.

 

I never said that. I said that Cotto wasn't the same fighter after he lost to Marg. I didn't think he was shot. I think Cotto is on the decline. I also don't understand why Manny would fight him at a catchweight instead of the welter weight limit.

 

cotto was never shot

 

Also out of those 5 ppl you have quoted as saying Cotto was shot. I don't remember any of them other then maybe SDfinest saying Cotto wasn't shot anymore for them to even contradict themselves.

 

You picked shot Margarito to beat him..