Are the British Light Heavyweights better than the super middleweights?

P4P wise I'd have

Cleverly
Groves
Degale
Bellew
Mckenzie
Smith

So fairly mixed bag cos that's not including Carl Froch who's best outta the lot

 

168 is far better...Froch, thats all.

 

Paul Smith is a middleweight who had a couple of opportunites he could'nt turn down at SMW , first up Quigley , a local derby , no love lost between them , and a winnable fight (which he actually lost :nono) , second up Tony Dodson , another local derby and shot and another easy win / pay day , by then he probably beleived (and maybe still does :yep) he was a SMW , que De Gale , que Paul back down to 160 before another opportunity arrises @168 , que Groves KO 2

Rocky Fielding i beleive would also stop Paul up @168 too

So the Smith yard stick theory doesnt really work

Anyway , its a good point you raise , in terms of ranking the division in pure talent , it has to go to 168 , there is more depth and more talent than up @175

I thought De Gale Groves was an excellent fight , fought at a level way above British / Euro , there was hardly a single shot that went a stray , the level of concentration and application was immense , it was a superb advert for British Boxing , i can say much of the same for Cleverly Bellew except for me a little less polished , De Gale and Groves displayed a fantastic variety within there style's and both men where out of there comfort zone for the majority of the fight which displayed these two have genuine talent to go with ability , i felt Cleverly and Bellew were just doing what they do which dont get me wrong made for a very good fight , but i was more impressed with De Gale Groves overall

Froch is a 2 time world champion who's paid his dues and fought the worlds best for the last 2 years , nobody @175 can say that yet

 

It's quite possible that you are an actual spastic.

 

:rofl:rofl

 

cleverly above froch?

you're welsh so kind of forgiven. but thats shocker.
oh yeah mckenzie is cw champ, not british, sort your research out

 

ITT:

Nathan Cleverly has one win against a good European level opponent, wins over a few other European level opponent, and a narrow points win over domestic level opponent.

Carl Froch was "made to look like a caveman" in the S6 tournament where his losses were to Mikkel Kessler and Andre Ward, and he registered victories over Andre Dirrell, Arthur Abraham and Glen Johnson. (Having beaten Jean Pascal and Jermain Taylor prior to the S6.)

Yes. I can see the argument for ranking Nathan Cleverly above Carl Froch. I am now convinced that Nathan Cleverly is world class and not domestic/European level with a WBO alphabelt. Hopkins is running scared of Clev.

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I'm actually too pissed to give you a proper critique of your piece so I'll just go . If Cleverley fought Frocch we would be picking up Welsh bits for ages

 

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Thats a horrific post, but I do think Froch is there for the taking.

 

froch fought a p4p top 10 fighter, who hasnt been troubled by anyone in years.

clev has shown he can take a bellew punch, i dont know if youre trolling but thats hardly evidence ofhim being better than froch. the reason froch lost to kessler was the fact he fought like nathan in that fight. if there is one thing i likeabout nathan its that he is entertaining with his lack of defense.

ahahahaa you know fine that there is zero money in a cleverly fight, thats why hes fighting timmy karpenter, because no one else would take the pittance on offer.
yes, well done cleverly for those title wins. its who you beat mate, not what title you hold

maybe you're just the welsh dunky mccaffrey, blinded by patriotism. at least he admits it

 

I have to disagree, theres no evidence to suggest this IMO.