Cutting Weight Is A Skill

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by KidPerat, Feb 5, 2012.


  1. KidPerat

    KidPerat King Bee Full Member

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    There is a science behind cutting weight and it's something that athletes have to work at to master- it's a skill like any other. You'd never blame someone for having superior strength because they bench press everyday so why fault Chavez Jr. for having superior weight cutting ability? It's not easy to do nor is it fun but it shouldn't be considered "cheating." It's a part of boxing and it can play to your advantage or it can hurt you if you try to cut too much.

    I'm not a huge Jr. fan and there's a lot to criticize him for but cutting weight shouldn't be one of them...
     
  2. Bald_Toad

    Bald_Toad Ring Title Full Member

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    chavez jr got caught using a diuretic before and he left before being tested last night
     
  3. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It's not cheating insofar as it's legal according the current rules, but it's worth acting to what extent it's a skill practiced by actual fighters and not by their physical trainers and whether it's a skill we want being as influential and as celebrated as it is at the moment in the sport.
     
  4. bremen

    bremen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    but weight does not matter - ask anyone in classic.
     
  5. Boxing Fanatic

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    guys who r on that shite r lazy *******s. dude gets drunk while in training camp. chavez is quite a character
     
  6. Hermit

    Hermit Loyal Member banned

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    Weight classes are to ensure fairness inside the ropes. This isn't a hard concept. It makes for unsafe fights that shouldn't be sanctioned because of weight differences AT FIGHT TIME. You wanna have a weight cutting contest fine, join the skinny ass skags at beauty pageants. They just pull each others hair and **** like that.
     
  7. lefty

    lefty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A more muscular individual isn't going to be able to cut weight as easily as a softer individual, it's to do with water retention in muscles. So I'd call it an ability rather than a skill.
     
  8. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It may be a skill, but in a sport based on weight classifications its potentially unbalancing and dangerous for both guys in the long run.

    5 pounds is an acceptable difference for medium sized guys, but 11-15 pounds difference in weight on fight night is just way way too much, it is defeating the whole point of weight classes. I really don't want to see a lot of Gatti-Gamache type mismatches, and Pac-Margarito was a lot more dangerous than people think.

    Some guys cut a lot of water, some guys don't fluctuate ever. I would be very surprised if Floyd ever weighed over 161 pounds in his life (so far) whether he was training for a fight or not.

    Heavyweights are so big and strong in theory size doesn't matter "as much" over 200 lbs, but we all instinctively understand that the size of the Klitschkos and their coordination is making it very hard for a small guy to dominate the division, perhaps almost unfairly.
     
  9. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't have a problem with guys rehydrating x amount of lbs as long as they are playing by the rules.
     
  10. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And what's funny is some people are crying over Chavez while some claim Pac was cherry picking much bigger men. Pick a side for Christ sakes.
     
  11. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I've always been on Pac's side. If you are a great small fighter, a shot mediocre bigger fighter should still give you tons of problems. He should NEVER have been in the same ring with Margarito, even though he pulled it off (turns out he's actually better at fighting slower big guys, who would have thought?)
     
  12. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Why can't people say Jr was DRAINED?

    why only now is it a case of "he was too big"
     
  13. CHAL_DIESEL

    CHAL_DIESEL GOAT Full Member

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    Stuff like this happens

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPAl0WAhg6Q[/ame]

    mannnn that was brutal
     
  14. Danmann

    Danmann Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They could put weigh ins back to day of fight, as they should be. Problem is monitoring fighters. I think a boxer should show he is within a certain range of target weight some time before a fight, say a week. Cutting weight drastically is what causes many problems. How Gatti put on 19 pounds in one day is strange, some questioned if weigh in was done right. I wonder myself.
     
  15. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Cut weight by cutting carbs, such as Adkins Diet. Bodybuilders do it all the time.................