Ruslan Chagaev v. Joe Louis

The best fighters Louis fought were Marciano, Charles, Schmeling, and Walcott. What is his record in these fights?

 

Baer didn't have any fractures the Braddock fight but he had what was equivilant of water in the knees but in his knuckles. If i knew how to upload photos i could show you a xray of Baer's hand and it's clear there's no fracture but i can also show you a photo where his knuckles look very puffy. A doctor recommended that his hand be put in a cast for several weeks for it to heal.

As for the Louis fight i mentioned this in my original post physically Baer was in the shape of his life but mentally he fell apart the night of the fight, I read he was really all over the place and Dempsey practically had to shove him into the ring.

 

No doubt about that i think especially after the trade off Max had at the end of the first round he realised what he was in the ring with and kind've mentally crumbled. Like you said he was a hot and cold kinda guy and to beat a man of Louis' calibre you've gotta bring your A game.

 

what gave you the idea of coming up with this matchup? :huh

 

Wasn't that posted in the "Unpopular Opinions" thread. Unpopular does not mean I believe it, rather that it's just unpopular.






That said, I believe it.

 

OMG no! atsch

 

In full disclosure I picked Louis early on in the thread, by UD. That said, I think Chagaev is being underrated. Tough, very skilled, decent pop, pretty mobile before his achilles rupture, and excellent reflexes. That said again, MN's comments earlier about Chag falling into the pocket waiting to counter with that quick but wide left had me feeling this could end early also.

 

The circus freak managed a SD with Chag...and so did Ruiz and Virchis and he could not stop the likes of Meehan,Skelton, Drumond and Travis Walker...no doubt Chag had a strong amateur background and is a strong guy but the last fight he impressed me was the Rob Callaway KO

again I like to see him matched with some of the young guys coming up and he may yet have a few real good fights left but I think Joe Louis would really bust him up...too many hands...too many combinations of powerful well executed text book punches....they may not have had the advanced amateur careers back in Joe's day but they had the school of hard knocks and it was deep...if you got to the top of a sole Championship it spoke in volumes, and JOE was a Champ with no split titles and held it fighting all the best of his era and rematching tough fights...tough fight for Chag

 

Marciano was an all time great at the end of his career...Schmeling a hard punching tactical fighter that Louis destroyed in a rematch and to his credit he did rematch the very avoided Walcott who was crafty and could level you with either hand (pin Point Power)

I will say Louis lost fight 1 but redeemed himself in the rematch. People who don't think Walcott had sick power should watch the Louis fights, the Charles KO and the 1st round of Marciano 1

But look at Louis's title RUN,He was the sole Champ no split tiles, he fought his number 1 contenders, and always rematches a tough fight...we could try and pick hairs but a very big difference in Joe Louis and Larry Holmes who did not always fight the best of his era and never rematches a tough fight and Holmes always shared the Championship and never unified and that was self-imposed