Boxing weights compared to MMA weights

Discussion in 'MMA Forum' started by Flash Jab, Feb 6, 2012.


  1. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    I've caught myself wondering about this a few times, but don't you think its a trip how the weights between MMA and boxing are completely different? Here's a basic conversion. Boxing being on the left, MMA on the right.

    Flyweight = 112 | Strawweight = 115 (3lb under)
    Bantamweight = 118 | Strawweight = 115 (3lb over)
    Featherweight = 126 | Flyweight (1lb over)
    Lightweight = 135 | Bantamweight
    Welterweight = 147 | Featherweight (2lb over)
    Middleweight = 160 | Lightweight (5lb over)
    Light Heavyweight = 175 | Welterweight (5lb over)
    Heavyweight = 200+ | Light Heavyweight/Heavyweight

    Putting this graph into effect, here are some boxing fighters and what weights they would roughly fight at. Pretty crazy if you think about it.

    Strawweight: Nonito Donaire (Though almost at Flyweight, despite moving up to Super Bantamweight in boxing), Vic Darchinyan,
    Flyweight: Guillermo Rigondeaux, Yuriorkis Gamboa, Juanma Lopez
    Bantamweight: Juan Manuel Lopez, Robert Guerrero, Brandon Rios
    Featherweight: Timothy Bradley, Amir Khan, Zab Judah (all would be underweight), Manny Pacquiao, Floyd Mayweather, Shane Mosley
    Lightweight: Sergio Martinez (slightly over), Miguel Cotto, James Kirkland, Saul Alvarez
    Welterweight: Bernard Hopkins, Jean Pascal, Chad Dawson (all slightly over), Andre Ward, Carl Froch, Lucian Bute

    Just thought it was interesting.
     
  2. PivotPunch

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    Mma welterweight is closer to super middleweight in boxing than lightheavy. And mma lightweight is almost identical with super welterweight
     
  3. achillesthegreat

    achillesthegreat FORTUNE FAVOURS THE BRAVE Full Member

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    Boxing has it all wrong. Each division is VERY weak because the talent pool is so shallow.

    Imagine 156 to 170 in boxing - becomes Miguel Cotto, Saul Alvarez, Cornelius Bundrage, Paul Williams, James Kirkland, Cory Spinks, Erislandy Lara, Anthony Mundine, Antonio Margarito, Kermit Cintron, Sergio Martinez, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, Felix Sturm, Andy Lee, Gennady Golovkin, Dmitry Pirog, Nobuhiro Ishida, Andre Ward, Carl Froch, Lucian Bute, Mikkel Kessler, Kelly Pavlik, Andre Dirrel, Arthur Abraham....

    What a ****ing stacked division. The are more names to add to that list! Great fights all over the place. Fighters would improve even more to get further in their careers and have the skill to deal with such talent!
     
  4. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think primarily its because boxing weight classes were established when people were relatively smaller so a 200Ibs athlete was a huge dude. Today that isn't the case. But yeah boxing with the UFC's weight classes would be unbelievably awesome.
     
  5. achillesthegreat

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    Even the original weight classes would be great but they introduced more.

    The only issue with what you say seems to appear above 175 where the insertion of a 200 pound division isn't so bad.
     
  6. Black2023

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    Imagine the weight divisions if boxing was this- Adopts the old school approach of fighting and mixing it with modern themes. Also surely Middleweight should literally the middle division...so i picked 7 weight classes. Anyone fancy doing a top 10 if boxing kept it simple for each division. Also creating a super-heavy, makes Heavy more interesting for guys like Haye, Adamek, Chambers to fight and make money.


    210 plus- Super-Heavy

    175-210- Heavyweight

    160-175- Light-heavyweight

    147-160- Middleweight

    135-147- Welterweight

    126-135- Lightweight

    126 minus - Featherweight


    In the end we want competition, does anyone serioulsy think half the guys that claim to be champion would be if there were only 7 weight classes.
     
  7. Black2023

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    Also weight classes exisit to make it fair, so jumping weight should not be so easy, in reality most fighters would stay in there weight class, and the special ones jump one or two at the most...i laugh when people say 5 weight champ...yeah whatever.
     
  8. Primate

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    The ridiculous weight classes and the alphabet titles is what pretty much killed it with me and boxing. A dozen ****ing weight classes, 4 major sanctioning bodies and countless minor associations/organisations and federations. It's a joke.
     
  9. achillesthegreat

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    Get rid of some of the weight classes, get rid of the inteirm, silver etc bull**** and boxing would be much healthier.

    4 belts is the hard part of boxing. Football, Tennis etc have numerous titles which people follow. 17 weight classes x 4 belts x 4 interim/silver etc then throw in another 17 x 4 **** weight classes and god damn it there are probably 100 champs or so.
     
  10. Black2023

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    What would my idea look like on paper guys? Who fancies doing a top ten for each weight class.

    The only division i see losing out would be the super-heavies as Adamek, Haye and Chambers would more likely fight in the heavy div which is sub 210.
     
  11. PivotPunch

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    I don´t think that Haye and Adamek would be fighting sub 210 at this point of their career they want the big payday against the Klitschkos. If they wanted they could still be fighting at CW they wouldn´t even have to lose weight, they could cut water to CW if they wanted to.
     
  12. DonBoxer

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    Why have you added minimum weights to each division?
     
  13. Will Cooling

    Will Cooling Boxing Addict Full Member

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    All weight classes today have minimum weights. Commission's won't sanction a welterweight match if one of the fighters comes in below the lightweight limit.
     
  14. SouthpawSlayer

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    the weight classes in boxing have become an absolute joke, 12 is hard enough but 17 is just too ****ing hard
     
  15. Flash Jab

    Flash Jab Boxing Junkie banned

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    Just to say, the point of this thread wasn't to show how many weights boxing has compared to UFC, just the difference in weight and the fighters that would be fighting at lower weights. Pacquiao, Mosley and Mayweather being at Featherweight, etc. Its just crazy to think a guy like Frankie Edgar fights 10lbs heavier give or take compared to Mayweather or Pacquiao. Obviously boxing weight classes are saturated, MMA's a relatively new sport so its going to have little.