My thoughts on how Cotto can use the tools at his disposal to beat Mayweather

Good argument about size and reach not mattering in jabbing with a jabber only that Norton and Ali had the same height and reach and Oscar only had a two inch reach advantage on quartey. Whereas Mayweather had a 5 inch reach advantage on Cotto.


Nice try though. Also keep in mind Mayweather moving up in weight out jabbed Oscar.


So what gym did you attend? Are they out of business?

 

Cotto was at his absolute worst under Santiago. Guard too high, elbows too wide, head off balance to the point it was past the lead foot, punches wide, and never got lead foot position.

Cotto had a car accident at the time he was competing at 140, and the shoulder got progressively worse. Steward helped him use it more frequently against Foreman (an undefeated, rangy, mobile opponent who Cotto was favored to lose), and following up post-surgery, it has looked even better. Snapping iron-chinned Margarito's head back with 1-2's is impressive. A strong right hand is a strong right hand, whether it's hitting an ATG square on the chin, or an old heavy bag.

I'm speaking facts based on a timeline and general knowledge base you seem to be unfamiliar with, and you're just hatin with little rhyme or reason. You can leave the thread now :hi:

 

Bogotzo says Cotto was favored to lose against foreman even though it had been proven on here that Cotto was a wide favorite. Also neglects to mention was fighting on bum knee

Grain gents. A grain...

 

You wanna see him flustered, huh? Floyd looking out of his comfort zone always makes the air of competition thicker and more exciting.

Do you need a list of examples where a fighter jabbing with the jabber was successful?

Cotto jabs to the head much more consistently than Floyd (who prefers the body), and steps in behind it to close the range. Mosley (who still had a competent jab at the time) and Foreman were both taller, and Shane was longer. Floyd hardly ever looked good in the Oscar fight; his movement and offense looked limited, despite a clear win.

 

Cotto is too vulnerable by right hand over the top. Foreman and Mayorga landed plenty of them against Cotto, and none of those two had Floyd's timing and accuracy.

 

Who has a better jab Floyd or Mosley, did Floyd or did Floyd not outjab Oscar.

Willing to take a avatar bet that Cotto doesn't have one round where he lands more the 5 jabs ?

 

Foreman's knee was injured when he was much younger, and had fought fine with it up until that fight, where Cotto's pressure made him put forth more effort than he'd needed to in moving and re-injured himself during the fight.

 

So was foreman the fav. Quick name the best fighter feather fist had beaten to that point.

 

Foreman landed a good 1 or 2 in the fourth round I believe, but hardly "plenty." Mayorga is an awkward style to deal with, but he did land a good amount of over-hand rights rushing forward in the mid-rounds. Margarito was throwing some chopping overhand rights from above in their last fight, but Cotto was pivoting to the outside of them and catching them on his forearm much better than I'd ever seen him do.

I wouldn't be surprised if Floyd landed a high amount of straight rights on Cotto's face since he's incredibly accurate with it, but the trick is not to give him the angle, space, incentive, or comfort in doing so too often.

Oscar's jab did more for him than Floyd's for himself in that fight, plain as day.

 

I think he was on ESB's V-Bookie, but most betting sites I just looked at show Cotto was the favorite.

I fail to see what you're getting at in your tangential narrow-minded attack on Cotto, so I'm not going to waste anymore time responding to your irrelevant posts. Make your own thread with your own analysis about how Cotto has 0 chance if you feel that strongly about it, but I'm trying to open a space for knowledgeable technical discussion here, not a constant nut-hugging contest fanboys like you seem so accustomed to.

 

Oscar was taller and had longer arms though.

 

I appreciate your post, but i can only see Floyd standing in front of Cotto and countering him like a speed ball. Cotto will be made to look worse than JMM in his fight with Floyd. Cotto had decent power at 140 but he will not have enough to make this remotely dangerous. Cotto has slow handspeed, which is the final reason why he is a perfect opponent for Floyd.

Floyd will turn it up in the middle rounds but this will inevitably end up in a one sided UD with Floyd never the one to take large risks for no reason.

 

I was very impressed with Cotto's footwork when coming forward with the jab against Foreman. Kept his balance tremendously and it allowed him to get into range to set up the right hand at times. I hope to see that here, but mixing up what comes after jabbing. Could be crucial. Sometimes force the fight inside and throw well-placed combinations, body punches, and physically muscle/push him back. Other times double up on the jab and back off and circle. Force Mayweather to make adjustments, too.

I think we'll see Cotto in his more straight-up and correct stance in this fight. If he starts bending over and putting his head past his lead foot like he did with Judah, Gomez, Pacquiao, Clottey, and Mayorga, he'll be even easier to hit and time. I think Diaz is a better fit for him than Steward and obviously that incompetent dude Santiago. They'll work together to maximize what he is capable off. Whether he wins or not...we'll see May 5th.

 

Lol. Everything Mayweather did controlling pace and landing his overhand right was based off the jab. Oscars jab was rendered ineffective despite throwing it more according to compubox, yet in the final 3 rounds Floyd's jab to the body and overhand right couldn't miss.

But yeah oscars jab was more effective lol.

 

I don't see Cotto having the same success with the jab as Oscar did; Oscar threw it at range, whereas Cotto steps into it and covers a large amount of ground in doing so, and should use it as a key to open the rest of his offense up in the early-mid rounds.

Cotto's slowness is overrated, I feel, especially after seeing the combinations to the head and body he threw at Antonio. The whole second half of my post was that Cotto shouldn't stand in front of Floyd when Floyd tries to stand in front of him, and should take away the angle laterally and force Floyd into over-committing. Otherwise, Floyd will carve him up, like you say.