James Kirkland Pulls an Amir Khan (Ducks Ishida)

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TenPieceCombo, Feb 9, 2012.


  1. Team Ishida had serious trouble finding an opponent because he was too tall and too awkward. They then proposed a rematch to James Kirkland, whose team rejected the fight. A ***** move given that Kirkland and his team claimed that the TKO loss was nothing more than a fluke. Kirkland has EVERY reason in the world to avenge his loss to Ishida given that Ishida took that zero and did it in humiliating fashion.

    :-(

    Samurai Warrior > Mandingo Warrior

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  2. JASPER

    JASPER Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Isn't he fight Pwill?
     
  3. Cellz831

    Cellz831 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    why would he give a **** about ishida when hes tryna get a title shot @ Canelo?
     
  4. Because Ishida handed him his first loss in humiliating fashion and snatched away that 0? Because Team Ishida claimed that **** was a fluke? And because this happened very recently and not in the early stages of Kirkland's pro career?

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  5. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    He's fighting Molina.. So uhhhhh No!! :roll:
     
  6. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sorry but I'm going to need to see a bit more than a context-free claim from the obviously neutral Team Ishida to conclude that Kirkland was ducking. Do we even know when the hell this offer was made? Also, did Team Ishida say anything about their own pull out from the contracted Khurtsidze fight?
     
  7. Dr Gonzo

    Dr Gonzo Yo! Molesta La Breastas! Full Member

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    he will steamroll Molina, and then once Ishida gets belted by Williams he will take the fight
     
  8. "When Ishida beat Kirkland, we tried to make as many fights as we could, but nobody wanted to fight him. We even talked to Kirkland about doing a rematch and he wasn't too interested, and he's our own guy."

    -- Eric Gomez Golden Boy Promotions Vice President and Matchmaker
     
  9. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    OKay that's a bit more helpful, but if it was in the immediate aftermath of the loss/before Kirkland's reunion with Wolfe then I think it's hard to call that a duck. Gomez also appears to have missed out on Khurtsidze wanting to fight Ishida (indeed even signing to fight him!).
     
  10. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Lets see how it turns out. I think Kirkland will most likely KO Molina but it's not an easy fight! Molina is capable of out pointing James. I forgot all about Ishida-Williams, When does that take place Gonzo?
     
  11. Duck Dodgers

    Duck Dodgers Kimbo #1 P4P Full Member

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    Kirkland has the worst chin in the history of boxing.
     
  12. terror_tim

    terror_tim New Member Full Member

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    Not really. He may have some of the worse footwork and therefore bad balance in boxing we see among prize fighters but his chin isn't really awful. He wasn't really hurt, just stopped because he kept getting knocked down because his feet where never under him.
     
  13. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
     
  14. terror_tim

    terror_tim New Member Full Member

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    Kirkland is foregoing a chance to fight Ishida to fight Molina for prestige, a title and a much bigger purse. This isn't brain surgery here.

    Boxing is a business. Not some back yard brawl that you need to exact revenge. If Ishida can win vs Paul Williams he will more than likely get a shot at Kirkland.

    In boxing the time frame to make money in the sport, especially for limited fighters like Kirkland, is small. You don't follow up a great win vs Angulo with fighting a no namer like Ishida. That fight will always be there. Molina is no gimmie and if Kirkland doesn't prove to be the stronger fight I don't see him getting the decision. Kirkland will need this fight later.

    It isn't like the boxing world is clamoring for Kirkland vs Ishida. Just a couple of fools who think a fighter has to always give a rematch. Ishida won, he should be happy with the elevation of his career and the fact he will now get another fight on HBO and probably something down the road. Probably best for him to keep the fight in the back pocket as well. I can see both these guys needed the fight down the road.

    Best for both parties to keep this fight alive for their stumbles down the road. Both are going to have them.
     
  15. terror_tim

    terror_tim New Member Full Member

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    Kirkland is foregoing a chance to fight Ishida to fight Molina for prestige, a title and a much bigger purse. This isn't brain surgery here.

    Boxing is a business. Not some back yard brawl that you need to exact revenge. If Ishida can win vs Paul Williams he will more than likely get a shot at Kirkland.

    In boxing the time frame to make money in the sport, especially for limited fighters like Kirkland, is small. You don't follow up a great win vs Angulo with fighting a no namer like Ishida. That fight will always be there. Molina is no gimmie and if Kirkland doesn't prove to be the stronger fight I don't see him getting the decision. Kirkland will need this fight later.

    It isn't like the boxing world is clamoring for Kirkland vs Ishida. Just a couple of fools who think a fighter has to always give a rematch. Ishida won, he should be happy with the elevation of his career and the fact he will now get another fight on HBO and probably something down the road. Probably best for him to keep the fight in the back pocket as well. I can see both these guys needed the fight down the road.

    Best for both parties to keep this fight alive for their stumbles down the road. Both are going to have them.