Floyd Mayweather - one of the best ever

Easily.

 

Certainly a great fighter H2H, especially at super featherweight. He really was special there. He was faster, much more powerful than he is now, and MUCH more aggressive. Corrales was a masterpiece.

He gradually becomes less impressive as a H2H proposition as we get higher in weight, which I think he knows himself since he tends to be more *ahem*..selective. At welterweight for example he doesn't figure overwhelmingly highly for me H2H.

Unfortunately his record isn't that impressive in a historical context and is certainly trumped by Pacquiao in his own era.

 

Void; One of the best woman beaters ever!

 

likely, but I'd like to know rather than speculate, I'm not crediting him with being able to beat him without them fighting

 

Forrest would have been a nightmare for him

 

Not really.

 

There aren't many that I'd pick to ''blow him away'' at or below 147.

Only Hearns really springs to mind to be honest.

At 147 though he can't rank particularly highly, clearly a highly skilled operator but without the names on his record to prove too much.

Baldomir was the legitimate champion fair enough, but he was probably about 4th or 5th in the division at the time behind Judah (I know he beat him but still....), Shane, Margarito, Cotto etc.

A double hard *******, but awfully limited. You'd wager a fair few ''tier 2'' welters of that time would beat him, such as Collazo. Hatton would have boxed his head off. Says it all really.

 

yeah, there's no empirical evidence what so ever to suggest he's getting blown away by anyone, that's speculation

 

It's not unreasonable to believe that Hearns would lay him flat on his back inside the first three minutes though.

If an old, 18 months off Shane can hurt him badly with a single right hand, a pretty simple jab to the body to distract and then right over the top kinda manoevre......

Fair play to him of course, he took it and from then on dominated, but an early 1980's Hearns probably hit twice as hard as Mosley did.

 

Or any to suggest he'd handle any of the 'greats' at the weight either, by the same rationale.

As a 147lber, no more impressive than a Johnny Saxton IMO.

 

Try thrice :yep

 

I never said he'd handle any of them.

I just said there's no empirical evidence to suggest he'd be blown away by any greats, I never even mentioned 147, what I said is right.

 

Yeah, Hearns is a nightmare for him most probably, I'd think he would be winning definitely.

I think the whole thing about him being hurt 'badly' by Shane is evidence of how much people clutch at straws when it comes to Floyd to be honest, if that's being 'hurt badly' then maybe the ref should have stopped the Leonard Duran fight when Leonard wobbled in round two. Floyd wasn't hurt badly, he was hurt. We see people get smashed around the ring and they carry on.

 

Sorry to derail the thread, but if you guys haven't seen the thread in the lounge about the dad and his daughter on facebook, watch the vid in the opening post, thank me later